View Poll Results: Have you ever received governmrnt assistance?

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    Re: Have you every received some form government assistance?

    Yup, twice. I receive a Pell Grant for college.

    I was also on state medical care in Minnesota for about 2 months. I wouldn't have signed up for it at my age and health status, but I got injured at a very bad time between jobs and while moving, and it was either something very serious, or something not so serious. Risking it could have had major consequences. So I signed up for state insurance and got off it as soon as it was confirmed to not be serious.

    In Minnesota, state insurance works 3 months retroactively. So, I was able to go the ER immediately and have that bill covered.

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    Re: Have you every received some form government assistance?

    Certainly. All throughout my life.
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    Re: Have you every received some form government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Then you don't understand my argument. I expect people to be responsible when they are in a situation where they are capable of doing so. Social spending, the majority of the time, given that the majority of people on welfare are only on it temporarily, use it as a hand up. There is nothing wrong with that and its something that makes me proud of in this country.
    Everyone is capable of being responsible in *ALL* situations. You are right, there may be times when, due to circumstances beyond one's control, they find themselves in a temporary position where they need help and I'm entirely fine with that. However, in so many cases, it's not beyond one's control, it's because people acted irresponsibly in the first place that they get into those situations. That's what I oppose.
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    Re: Have you every received some form government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Everyone is capable of being responsible in *ALL* situations. You are right, there may be times when, due to circumstances beyond one's control, they find themselves in a temporary position where they need help and I'm entirely fine with that. However, in so many cases, it's not beyond one's control, it's because people acted irresponsibly in the first place that they get into those situations. That's what I oppose.
    Nice fairy tale you live in there.

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    Re: Have you every received some form government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    and again I am afraid you are projecting. with the probable exception of Pell Grants - the surest sign that one will end up on welfare is whether or not ones mother was on welfare.
    My mother was on welfare at one time and now she is quite wealthy

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    Re: Have you every received some form government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    My mother was on welfare at one time and now she is quite wealthy
    and this demonstrates.......?

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    Re: Have you every received some form government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Nice fairy tale you live in there.
    not a fairy tale at all. Most folks who are and remain poor do so because of their own bad decision-making; especially in the realm of family-formation.

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    Re: Have you every received some form government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    and this demonstrates.......?
    That people on welfare aren't always lazy, or want to remain on welfare, or want to be a burden to others, or are not motivated, etc etc.

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    Re: Have you every received some form government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    not a fairy tale at all. Most folks who are and remain poor do so because of their own bad decision-making; especially in the realm of family-formation.
    And how would you know how people come to be on welfare?

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    Re: Have you every received some form government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    And how would you know how people come to be on welfare?
    Pew Research did a study a while back on what causes people to fall out of the middle class and into poverty. Their "Top Five" were:

    1. Divorce
    2. Failure to Marry (as in, the parent of your children)
    3. Heroin or other 'hard drug' usage
    4. Failure to graduate high school (compared to high school graduates)
    5. Failure to graduate high school (compared to college graduates)


    Generally speaking, the evidence repeatedly demonstrates that if you:

    1. Graduate high school
    2. Wait until you are married to have children
    3. Stay married and
    4. Work full time

    you are statistically very unlikely to fall into (or, if you ever do, remain in) poverty.

    but if mega wants to play the anecdote game, I've got a couple from my family as well.
    Last edited by cpwill; 09-03-12 at 09:18 AM.

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