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    Re: Have you every received some form government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    -Welfare
    -AFDC
    -Medicaid
    -Food stamps/EBT cards
    -Government cheese/government peanut butter
    -Free or reduced school lunches
    -WIC
    -Pell grant
    -Cash for clunkers
    -Electric vehicle tax credit
    -Federal Tax Credits for Energy Efficiency for solar, wind or geothermal upgrades
    -Unemployment compensation
    -Free or discounted digital TV converter box
    -Free Government Cell Phone
    -Section 8 housing tenant or landlord
    -HUD project resident
    -First time home buyer down payment assistance
    -Any other government hand out for which you or your parents when you were a minor had to request or otherwise apply


    Academic and athletic scholarships and GI Bill excluded as those are earned. Social Security and Medicare excluded as well as we are all required to pay into it.
    My mom was on and off foodstamps/wic and welfare while me and my sisters were growing up, and got free school lunches.And pell grants paid for part of my schooling with my GI bill.
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    Re: Have you every received some form government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Really? Most people? I've never heard that before.
    A lot of people aren't willing to admit they have received these kinds of benefits, but typically, they are lying if they say they did not.

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    Re: Have you every received some form government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by waas View Post
    With a degree becoming more and more necessary, they're truly a blessing.
    With the cost of education spiraling, they are a poisoned apple.

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    Re: Have you every received some form government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Thats true but I do think I got the better end of the deal. You know the Army is the gift that just keeps on giving.
    Maybe so, (I tend to suspect the same about myself) but you engaged in trade, you did not receive aid. Of course you think you got better than you gave, that's why it's called "mutually beneficial trade".
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    Re: Have you every received some form government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    A lot of people aren't willing to admit they have received these kinds of benefits, but typically, they are lying if they say they did not.
    I am thinking you are projecting a bit there, and it is not as extensive as you suggest. I suspect this because I had always assumed that, like me, most folks would rather avoid the dole until their children face hunger without it.


    However, it'd be interesting to see - does anyone have any actual data on the list above? The problem I have usually seen is the EITC is often included, and it's hard to account for the people who are on multiple programs at a time.

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    Re: Have you every received some form government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I am thinking you are projecting a bit there, and it is not as extensive as you suggest. I suspect this because I had always assumed that, like me, most folks would rather avoid the dole until their children face hunger without it.


    However, it'd be interesting to see - does anyone have any actual data on the list above? The problem I have usually seen is the EITC is often included, and it's hard to account for the people who are on multiple programs at a time.
    I assume most people would avoid assistance as well, but most people who went to college went to public schools and got student loans for example.

    There is far more to this than things like TANF.

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    Re: Have you every received some form government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    With the cost of education spiraling, they are a poisoned apple.
    What's the poison apple, the degree, or the grant?
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    Re: Have you every received some form government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    What's the poison apple, the degree, or the grant?
    If you get pell grants for your studies that amount to $10,000, but the prevalence of pell grants increases demand and drives up the cost of your 4-year-degree by $20,000, are you $10,000 ahead, or $10,000 behind?

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    Re: Have you every received some form government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    If you get pell grants for your studies that amount to $10,000, but the prevalence of pell grants increases demand and drives up the cost of your 4-year-degree by $20,000, are you $10,000 ahead, or $10,000 behind?
    I'd say more people going to college and getting an education is worth the cost.
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    Re: Have you every received some form government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I'd say more people going to college and getting an education is worth the cost.
    And if you go through four years of non-productivity, lose out on the wages of those years, and then graduate to get a job that requires no degree, but which you could have gotten four years ago, is it worth that cost? Or, if like the majority of students, you do not achieve the degree, but instead take on the debt and then drop out, was it worth it? Was it worth it at inflated prices?


    and you did not answer the question, if the government offers you a $10K subsidy to purchase something that it increases the price of by $20K, are you 10K ahead or 10K behind because of the action of the government?

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