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    Re: Should Hemp be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by waas View Post
    Fully incorrect. Many people shy away from these substances because they fear consequences. Are you implying that making drugs illegal does nothing to deter their use?
    I wouldn't say nothing but it doesn't do much. I could get weed in under 5 minutes if I wanted to. I don't because I don't really want to do it. The law has no holding on that decision. I am fairly certain that I wouldn't get caught, I just don't do it
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    Re: Should Hemp be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by waas View Post
    So applying an "out of sight, out of mind" attitude to drug policy?
    Applying a "you're an adult and you don't get me to send me the bills your self sabotaging behaviors generate" policy toward personal liberty.

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    Re: Should Hemp be legal?

    Legalizing Hemp is pretty much a no brainer.

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    Re: Should Hemp be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by waas View Post
    Fully incorrect. Many people shy away from these substances because they fear consequences. Are you implying that making drugs illegal does nothing to deter their use?
    Might. But probably offset by the "forbidden fruit" element.

    And dont get me started on the negative consequences of the govts deli erate disinformation campaigns. Telling kids pot is EXACTLY as dangerous as heroine.

    So a kid succumbs to peer pressure and tries pot. Discovers he has been lied to. Assumes they were lying about heroine and...
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    The Psychology of Persuasion

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    Re: Should Hemp be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    I wouldn't say nothing but it doesn't do much. I could get weed in under 5 minutes if I wanted to. I don't because I don't really want to do it. The law has no holding on that decision. I am fairly certain that I wouldn't get caught, I just don't do it
    And heroin? Opium? Cocaine? You honestly can't tell me the DEA has done nothing to quell the use of drugs...

    This is from their website, it's a success report from 2011:

    Impact on Demand (2000 through 2011):
    Teen drug use:
    650,000 fewer teenagers used illicit drugs last year than a decade earlier, a 15 percent decline.
    Marijuana:
    Current marijuana use by teens has dropped seven percent.
    Methamphetamine:
    Current methamphetamine use by teens has plummeted 67 percent.
    Ecstasy:
    Current use of Ecstasy has been slashed by 42 percent among teens.
    Cocaine:
    Current cocaine use among high school seniors has dropped 48 percent, and crack cocaine use has
    decreased 50 percent.
    Steroids:
    Steroid use by teens has dropped by 44 percent.
    LSD:
    LSD use has dropped by an astounding 50 percent.
    Workplace drug use:
    Drug use among workers remains overall at its lowest level in more than 20 years. Since 1988,
    positive drug tests have fallen by 72 percent, from 13.6 percent in 1988 to 3.6 percent in 2010.
    Cocaine use among workers:
    Cocaine use among America's general workforce declined an unprecedented 68 percent between
    2006 and 2010.
    Workplace marijuana use:
    Workplace drug tests in America’s workforce in 2010 showed a 12.5 percent drop in marijuana
    use compared to 2006.

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    Should Hemp be legal?

    Yes of course Hemp should be legal, and so should Cannabis. Anything that can be grown naturally from the earth should be legal with zero restrictions.

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    Re: Should Hemp be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    Is there any legitimate reason why hemp shouldn't be legal?
    I don't see why ANY plant should be illegal, and I definitely don't see any cause for the federal government to get involved in police powers. I would prefer the federal government limited itself to defending our borders and facilitating commerce among our several states. No need to be meddling in the day-to-day goings on of the people of the states. I doubt the states joined a federation so that it could police them.

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    Re: Should Hemp be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by waas View Post
    So applying an "out of sight, out of mind" attitude to drug policy?

    That's funny, I thought drugs were dangerous.

    Fully incorrect. Many people shy away from these substances because they fear consequences. Are you implying that making drugs illegal does nothing to deter their use?
    1. I think taxpayer funds should go toward education (honest education, not exaggerations and lies) and deglamorization (honest commercials that propagate the latest knowledge about what drugs do to you). Don't end the war on drugs, just change the way we've been waging it. End the war on drug users instead.

    2. Absolutely drugs are dangerous. But when you make a drug illegal, you make it more dangerous, not less. We learned that lesson during alcohol prohibition, but for some reason we forget that when it comes to other drugs.

    3. Over the last 20 years, dozens of countries and states have either relaxed or tightened the penalties for drugs. But none has ever seen a change in the rate of drug use as a result of the laws. Drug laws affect where drugs are used, but not necessarily whether they're used. Yes there will be a few individuals who'se only reason for never doing a drug is because of the law, but overwhelmingly drug laws have no noticeable affect on the rate of use.

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    Re: Should Hemp be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Binary_Digit View Post
    1. I think taxpayer funds should go toward education (honest education, not exaggerations and lies) and deglamorization (honest commercials that propagate the latest knowledge about what drugs do to you). Don't end the war on drugs, just change the way we've been waging it. End the war on drug users instead.

    2. Absolutely drugs are dangerous. But when you make a drug illegal, you make it more dangerous, not less. We learned that lesson during alcohol prohibition, but for some reason we forget that when it comes to other drugs.

    3. Over the last 20 years, dozens of countries and states have either relaxed or tightened the penalties for drugs. But none has ever seen a change in the rate of drug use as a result of the laws. Drug laws affect where drugs are used, but not necessarily whether they're used. Yes there will be a few individuals who'se only reason for never doing a drug is because of the law, but overwhelmingly drug laws have no noticeable affect on the rate of use.
    Do you read what I write? http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1060858144

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    Re: Should Hemp be legal?

    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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