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Are Teachers Overpaid and Underworked?

Are teachers overpaid and underworked?

  • Yes, they are overpaid and underworked

    Votes: 10 15.2%
  • No, they are not overpaid and underworked

    Votes: 56 84.8%

  • Total voters
    66

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In your opinon, do you believe teachers as a whole are overpaid and underworked? If so, why do you believe that? And where would you rate the teaching profession in terms of it being a respectful and appreciated profession?
 
In your opinon, do you believe teachers as a whole are overpaid and underworked? If so, why do you believe that? And where would you rate the teaching profession in terms of it being a respectful and appreciated profession?

End public schools and let the market allocate teacher salaries in a privatized educational system. That is the only way to ensure that teachers will neither be overpaid nor underpaid.

If education is privatized, teachers will be paid exactly what the market will bear.
 
It's not the teachers, it's the bull**** system above them. They can only teach what they're told and allowed to teach in the public system, in the specific way they're told to teach. Teachers are just an easy target.
 
No - teachers are everywhere underpaid and overworked so that ordinary children do less well and the rich can see to it that their piglets buy advantage.
 
If you think teachers are underworked, you must not know any.
 
If anything their salaries should be raised, and while we're at it maybe a little less hate should be thrown their way. If we want to improve the country we need to invest heavily in our infrastructure, and that absolutely includes our educational system. And anybody who mentions the phrase "throwing money at the problem" (you know it's coming) needs to remember that quality services require funding. You can't defund something and expect it to work.
 
End public schools and let the market allocate teacher salaries in a privatized educational system. That is the only way to ensure that teachers will neither be overpaid nor underpaid.

If education is privatized, teachers will be paid exactly what the market will bear.

...institutionalizing an aristocratic class system overnight.
 
In your opinon, do you believe teachers as a whole are overpaid and underworked? If so, why do you believe that? And where would you rate the teaching profession in terms of it being a respectful and appreciated profession?

Teachers are not overpaid, nor are they underworked. The profession is generally not either respected or appreciated. It's a ****ty job, they make less money than any number of significantly less-well educated employees, and they do something extremely important (i.e. educating children).
 
In your opinon, do you believe teachers as a whole are overpaid and underworked?

Those claiming this are usually people who have a personal or ideological interest in undermining a universal, public education system. See Post 2.
 
End public schools and let the market allocate teacher salaries in a privatized educational system. That is the only way to ensure that teachers will neither be overpaid nor underpaid.

If education is privatized, teachers will be paid exactly what the market will bear.

As an intellectual exercise, I wonder if you might, at some point, attempt to respond to a thread without referencing either the free market or privatization. Try it out. It'll be good for you.
 
Overpaid - Generally yes, although it varies from one school district to the next. A telltale sign that people are being overpaid is if the school gets far more qualified applicants than it can actually hire. And in most schools, that is indeed the case.

Underworked - This is more of a moral judgment than an economic question...Personally I don't think teachers are "underworked," but their pay should reflect the fact that they do not work summers. As long as people are willing to accept a salary that fairly compensates them for the amount of work they do, it's no business of mine whether they work 20 hours a week, 40 hours, or 100 hours.

Respected and appreciated - I think most people respect and appreciate teachers. Although according to some of my teacher friends, there are some parents who think they know how to run the classroom better than the teacher does. But by and large, I think people have a positive view of teachers.
 
Overpaid - Generally yes, although it varies from one school district to the next. A telltale sign that people are being overpaid is if the school gets far more qualified applicants than it can actually hire. And in most schools, that is indeed the case.

I could be wrong, but I think the intent of the OP was directed at school systems that are deemed to be doing poorly. At least, that's usually how the subject is brought up.
 
...institutionalizing an aristocratic class system overnight.

This is based on the faulty assumption that we do not already have such an institutional system.
 
Overpaid - Generally yes, although it varies from one school district to the next. A telltale sign that people are being overpaid is if the school gets far more qualified applicants than it can actually hire. And in most schools, that is indeed the case.
I'd say that that was more of a sign that one school district is in a more attractive location than another. Or that it is better run. Or that there is a glut of qualified teachers available and looking for work. I'd say it is far from being an indicator that teachers are overpaid.
 
As an intellectual exercise, I wonder if you might, at some point, attempt to respond to a thread without referencing either the free market or privatization. Try it out. It'll be good for you.

I am focused on solutions to real problems, not playing nice wih nanny statists and coddling the sensibilities of bedwetters.

As a caring human being, I would love see teachers be paid what they are worth. This can only happen in a free enterprise system.
 
I am focused on solutions to real problems, not playing nice wih nanny statists and coddling the sensibilities of bedwetters.

Well that's lovely, but perhaps you should, maybe, answer the question in the OP, rather than bringing up what is, at best, a tangential issue?
 
As an intellectual exercise, I wonder if you might, at some point, attempt to respond to a thread without referencing either the free market or privatization. Try it out. It'll be good for you.
In this particular thread, he'd be hijacking it if he didn't talk about those things.
 
In this particular thread, he'd be hijacking it if he didn't talk about those things.

I'm sure you believe that. Good for you.
 
This is based on the faulty assumption that we do not already have such an institutional system.

I fail to see how your solution is anything less than a more extreme version of the problem.

I wonder why we don't explore the idea of funding the school systems equally with Federal taxes instead of rewarding different districts for having higher real estate values.
 
Well that's lovely, but perhaps you should, maybe, answer the question in the OP, rather than bringing up what is, at best, a tangential issue?

It is clear to anybody without an ideological ax to grind that my solution to to problem of teacher pay relates directly to the topic.

If we are concerned whether teachers are underpaid or overpaid, there is only one solution. Let their pay be determined by the free market. The market efficiently distributes resources and in a free market nobody is overpaid or underpaid, the free market has the goldilocks effect. Everybody gets paid just right.
 
I fail to see how your solution is anything less than a more extreme version of the problem.

I wonder why we don't explore the idea of funding the school systems equally with Federal taxes instead of rewarding different districts for having higher real estate values.

So your solution to having lousy public schools in poor areas is to pool all the money into centralized public education, thus ensuring that rich and poor alike receive lousy public education.

Your post is yet another brilliant example of nanny state "thinking."
 
In your opinon, do you believe teachers as a whole are overpaid and underworked? If so, why do you believe that? And where would you rate the teaching profession in terms of it being a respectful and appreciated profession?

Teachers are notoriously underpaid and overworked. They work under the whim of politics and politiacl finacial battles as is the case of late under the privitization wars. Education in America has been so emaciated under this war of attrition that US students have been victimized onto the world's back burner of education. The corporate culter is killing this country and it's abilities to servwe as a model for the world.
 
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