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    Re: Are Teachers Overpaid and Underworked?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog
    My argument is not about putting anything into affect and yours has yet to be implemented and may never be. So what?
    Yours is the establishment argument, and mine actually has been implemented small-scale. That is why I said "wait and see" when enough time has passed to compare results, even if mine are from a very small sample pool.

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    Re: Are Teachers Overpaid and Underworked?

    My OL is a teacher and she gets paid decently. She is also Tenured, which it has taken time to do. Moreover she she does far more in the school. All I can say is I have seen Kids From Grade School to High School all respect and like her. Different generations. Even after they have graduated and have seen her out and about. Parents and even the other staff.

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    Re: Are Teachers Overpaid and Underworked?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't know. How much do they get paid and what is their work week like?
    In my state the teachers starting salary is $30,000. And they put in about 45-50 hrs/week plus the work and planning they do at home.

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    Re: Are Teachers Overpaid and Underworked?

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    In my state the teachers starting salary is $30,000. And they put in about 45-50 hrs/week plus the work and planning they do at home.
    Know the feeling. In my state a starting teacher with zero experience can earn a little more than a Wal-Mart Greeter............I really don't know what they do with all that money................but then again, with all the "free time" we teachers have......I guess it's just a win-win situation!
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    Re: Are Teachers Overpaid and Underworked?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Yours is the establishment argument, and mine actually has been implemented small-scale. That is why I said "wait and see" when enough time has passed to compare results, even if mine are from a very small sample pool.
    You are operating under a misconception. I am not arguing establishment. I am arguing on a large scale vouchers will only benefit those who can afford it while the rest (as usual) are stuck wanting. This has little to do with arguing "establishment." What I AM arguing is that until we address the disparity of the cost of education, the idea of vouchers is ridicules. Small scale will prove nothing.
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    Re: Are Teachers Overpaid and Underworked?

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    In my state the teachers starting salary is $30,000. And they put in about 45-50 hrs/week plus the work and planning they do at home.
    So grading, course planning, etc. we're really looking at maybe at the low side 60 hours a week. Let's say 9 months for easy calculation. That's 13.88 dollars an hour. So off that rough calculation, I would say that teacher salary mean should be 45000-50000/yr
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    Re: Are Teachers Overpaid and Underworked?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So grading, course planning, etc. we're really looking at maybe at the low side 60 hours a week. Let's say 9 months for easy calculation. That's 13.88 dollars an hour. So off that rough calculation, I would say that teacher salary mean should be 45000-50000/yr
    Instead of $30,000

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    Re: Are Teachers Overpaid and Underworked?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    Teachers take care of you children while you are away at work. Have you ever tried taking care of and educating 5+ children at a time, how about 20+ children at a time? For the salary they make they are highly underrated and demonized for very stupid ****. Talk about the right wing finding a scapegoat for the real issues at hand.
    The right wing blame the teachers unions not the teachers themselves.
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    Re: Are Teachers Overpaid and Underworked?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Blatant falsehood. Teachers have been given due process when the school district attempts to fire them, to protect against corrupt administrators.

    Fewer things will demotivate teachers more than their sensing a major lack of support from their administration, and these protections help to guard against some of that.
    I believe in getting rid of the teachers unions and the administrators. We get problems from both.
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    Re: Are Teachers Overpaid and Underworked?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So grading, course planning, etc. we're really looking at maybe at the low side 60 hours a week. Let's say 9 months for easy calculation. That's 13.88 dollars an hour. So off that rough calculation, I would say that teacher salary mean should be 45000-50000/yr
    That's the average teacher salary in the US right now.


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