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    Re: Are Teachers Overpaid and Underworked?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    End public schools and let the market allocate teacher salaries in a privatized educational system. That is the only way to ensure that teachers will neither be overpaid nor underpaid.

    If education is privatized, teachers will be paid exactly what the market will bear.
    As an intellectual exercise, I wonder if you might, at some point, attempt to respond to a thread without referencing either the free market or privatization. Try it out. It'll be good for you.

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    Re: Are Teachers Overpaid and Underworked?

    Overpaid - Generally yes, although it varies from one school district to the next. A telltale sign that people are being overpaid is if the school gets far more qualified applicants than it can actually hire. And in most schools, that is indeed the case.

    Underworked - This is more of a moral judgment than an economic question...Personally I don't think teachers are "underworked," but their pay should reflect the fact that they do not work summers. As long as people are willing to accept a salary that fairly compensates them for the amount of work they do, it's no business of mine whether they work 20 hours a week, 40 hours, or 100 hours.

    Respected and appreciated - I think most people respect and appreciate teachers. Although according to some of my teacher friends, there are some parents who think they know how to run the classroom better than the teacher does. But by and large, I think people have a positive view of teachers.
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    Re: Are Teachers Overpaid and Underworked?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Overpaid - Generally yes, although it varies from one school district to the next. A telltale sign that people are being overpaid is if the school gets far more qualified applicants than it can actually hire. And in most schools, that is indeed the case.
    I could be wrong, but I think the intent of the OP was directed at school systems that are deemed to be doing poorly. At least, that's usually how the subject is brought up.

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    Re: Are Teachers Overpaid and Underworked?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Overpaid - Generally yes, although it varies from one school district to the next. A telltale sign that people are being overpaid is if the school gets far more qualified applicants than it can actually hire. And in most schools, that is indeed the case.
    Well that's just not true, especially in the fields of math and science. Take a look:

    http://www.cpre.org/images/stories/c...09%20final.pdf

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    Re: Are Teachers Overpaid and Underworked?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    ...institutionalizing an aristocratic class system overnight.
    This is based on the faulty assumption that we do not already have such an institutional system.

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    Re: Are Teachers Overpaid and Underworked?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Overpaid - Generally yes, although it varies from one school district to the next. A telltale sign that people are being overpaid is if the school gets far more qualified applicants than it can actually hire. And in most schools, that is indeed the case.
    I'd say that that was more of a sign that one school district is in a more attractive location than another. Or that it is better run. Or that there is a glut of qualified teachers available and looking for work. I'd say it is far from being an indicator that teachers are overpaid.
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    Re: Are Teachers Overpaid and Underworked?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    As an intellectual exercise, I wonder if you might, at some point, attempt to respond to a thread without referencing either the free market or privatization. Try it out. It'll be good for you.
    I am focused on solutions to real problems, not playing nice wih nanny statists and coddling the sensibilities of bedwetters.

    As a caring human being, I would love see teachers be paid what they are worth. This can only happen in a free enterprise system.

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    Re: Are Teachers Overpaid and Underworked?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    I am focused on solutions to real problems, not playing nice wih nanny statists and coddling the sensibilities of bedwetters.
    Well that's lovely, but perhaps you should, maybe, answer the question in the OP, rather than bringing up what is, at best, a tangential issue?

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    Re: Are Teachers Overpaid and Underworked?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    As an intellectual exercise, I wonder if you might, at some point, attempt to respond to a thread without referencing either the free market or privatization. Try it out. It'll be good for you.
    In this particular thread, he'd be hijacking it if he didn't talk about those things.
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    Re: Are Teachers Overpaid and Underworked?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    In this particular thread, he'd be hijacking it if he didn't talk about those things.
    I'm sure you believe that. Good for you.

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