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    Re: Are Teachers Overpaid and Underworked?

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    Basic morality doesn't mesh up with how markets function, so I don't really care.
    How do you measure your standards and how do you keep it free flowing?

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    Re: Are Teachers Overpaid and Underworked?

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    I think you can't actually defend it, but fine. Doesn't much matter to me. I am more interested in what Mega has to say on this as its statement that started this after all. Your support is just secondary really.

    There is nothing to defend and nobody to defend it to.
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    Re: Are Teachers Overpaid and Underworked?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    There is nothing to defend and nobody to defend it to.
    Is that really what you think?

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    Re: Are Teachers Overpaid and Underworked?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    The overworked thing ... it depends. Some years I'm constantly talking on the phone to parents, writing notes, brainstorming ways to make things better and doing piles of paperwork. Other years I have a smaller class with less behavior and academic issues. Likewise, some days are a breeze and some are from Hell. I rarely feel overworked and if I am, it's because I'm neurotic and and want everything to be just right.

    I believe my job is important since I'm teaching the country's 6 year olds to read and write, but I also don't feel that every teacher should be put on a pedestal to be ooohed and awwwed at. I've seen my fair share of really crappy teachers. They don't deserve a pedestal, let alone a paycheck.

    Therefore, I hate questions like this because it's assuming that all teachers equally work hard and are very good at their job. That's just not the case.
    You make a good point and sound like a good teacher. It is the teachers union that has enabled such crappy teachers to teach that gives the word teacher a bad name, sorry to lump you in with this crowd.

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    Re: Are Teachers Overpaid and Underworked?

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    Over $700 billion are spent in defense around the world.
    Less than $100 billion are spent in education.
    Make your own conclusions
    Typical lib response, just throw more money at a problem and it will go away. In reality the only thing that goes away is the money itself.

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    Re: Are Teachers Overpaid and Underworked?

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    I wouldn't put all teachers on a pedestal, but I would the profession itself on a pedestal.

    A nurse requires the same amount of education as a teacher. Yet, a nurse gets paid more than a teacher. Which is the more difficult job, and which has greater importance? Are they equally difficult and important? If so, then why aren't they paid roughly equal amounts.
    A nurse gets paid more than a teacher???? Nurses as a rule are the exact opposite of teachers, they are over worked and underpaid.

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    Re: Are Teachers Overpaid and Underworked?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    You make a good point and sound like a good teacher. It is the teachers union that has enabled such crappy teachers to teach that gives the word teacher a bad name, sorry to lump you in with this crowd.
    Problem is, there are crappy workers in any profession. There are crappy lawyers, doctors, etc. Teachers aren't the only profession where there are crappy workers.

    People seem to forget that.

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    Re: Are Teachers Overpaid and Underworked?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    A nurse gets paid more than a teacher???? Nurses as a rule are the exact opposite of teachers, they are over worked and underpaid.
    Yes, yes a nurse gets paid more than a teacher.

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    Re: Are Teachers Overpaid and Underworked?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    A nurse gets paid more than a teacher???? Nurses as a rule are the exact opposite of teachers, they are over worked and underpaid.
    You do realize you are falling into something you should avoid, right? I will let you fall in, but just so you know, you are accepting a false premise from the start that they are putting out there.

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    Re: Are Teachers Overpaid and Underworked?

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    I wouldn't put all teachers on a pedestal, but I would the profession itself on a pedestal.

    A nurse requires the same amount of education as a teacher. Yet, a nurse gets paid more than a teacher. Which is the more difficult job, and which has greater importance? Are they equally difficult and important? If so, then why aren't they paid roughly equal amounts.
    Good points. I would put the profession of teacher up on a pedestal, absolutely. It's an incredibly important job. I am all for GOOD teachers being paid a very good salary, but I'm not for a blanket good salary for all teachers because all teachers don't deserve it. Just as, I'm sure, not all nurses deserve it.


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