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Thread: Pragmatism and Racism

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    Re: Pragmatism and Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Pragmatism and the Problem of Race - Bill E. Lawson, Donald F. Koch - Google Books

    This is an excellent article on how encouraging pragmatic thinking in society encourages racist (among generally prejudiced) thought in general.

    It's common sense really. People's attention spans are only so wide, so when we demand that people make decisions a certain way, that decision making process will carry over throughout life.

    Therefore, people who encourage pragmatism should be charged with provocation of hate crimes.
    If we're going to criminalize pragmatists then I'm going to need a bigger house just to eat breakfast.

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    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Pragmatism and Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I'm not. I'm not into sports.

    In anycase everyone is prejudiced and it has nothing to do with pragmaticism. Do you feel love for someone? If so then why don't you feel love for the murderer? The rapist? How about the one time class bully from a school that got teacher of the year award? Would you feel the same about him/her as others that never experianced that bullying? Being prejudiced is not always a bad thing. There are times when being prejudiced is valid, like against murderers, rapists etc etc.

    Just because you are prejudiced against something/someone does not mean that you are racist though. Racism isn't about pragmaticism anyways. It's about hate and fear. The fear of things different from you and which you don't understand. The hate of the things that you fear.
    Feelings =/= thoughts.
    Wants =/= needs.
    Strategy =/= morality.

    Aside from that, no, we don't have to tolerate the intolerant. That would be hypocrisy.

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    Re: Pragmatism and Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    A person is defined by what they do, not what they are made of.
    What about the practice of evaluating what someone can do before seeing someone do anything?

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    Re: Pragmatism and Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    And that is pragmaticisms fault how? It is not the pragmaticism that makes racist dertminations. It is the individuals.
    That's like blaming weak people for getting sick after everyone's been sneezed on.

    You're also prejudiced against dumb people now. Everyone doesn't have attention to spare in developing multiple decision making methods.

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    Re: Pragmatism and Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    If we're going to criminalize pragmatists then I'm going to need a bigger house just to eat breakfast.

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    There's nothing wrong with using pragmatism in your private life because you're not exposing the thought process to others.

    When it's publicly exposed, it pollutes others' minds who can't necessarily handle it while remaining unprejudiced.

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    Re: Pragmatism and Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Feelings =/= thoughts.
    Wants =/= needs.
    Strategy =/= morality.
    What about when feelings do equal thoughts, wants do equal needs and strategy does equal morality? Ever considered that possible?

    Aside from that, no, we don't have to tolerate the intolerant. That would be hypocrisy.
    I can't figure what you're talking about from the quote and your response.

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    Re: Pragmatism and Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    There's nothing wrong with using pragmatism in your private life because you're not exposing the thought process to others.

    When it's publicly exposed, it pollutes others' minds who can't necessarily handle it while remaining unprejudiced.
    Well, THAT's a scary argument.

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    Re: Pragmatism and Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Well, THAT's a scary argument.
    I know. It scares me how many idiots are treated like adults today without having to demonstrate maturity.

    They're exposed to pop culture on a daily basis, and many of them take it seriously. They don't care about logical fallacies because everyone around uses the same bad logic.

    Pragmatism is a very dangerous idea because it allows for imperfect solutions. In politics that means expecting some people to fall through the cracks for the good of society. Furthermore, nobody cares because dead men tell no tales.

    A perfect example of this is how affirmative activists don't care if some white, straight, males suffer just so minorities can recover. They say society is a collective, and that individuals who want to be treated with respect are selfish.

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    Re: Pragmatism and Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Pragmatism and the Problem of Race - Bill E. Lawson, Donald F. Koch - Google Books

    This is an excellent article on how encouraging pragmatic thinking in society encourages racist (among generally prejudiced) thought in general.

    It's common sense really. People's attention spans are only so wide, so when we demand that people make decisions a certain way, that decision making process will carry over throughout life.

    Therefore, people who encourage pragmatism should be charged with provocation of hate crimes.

    Yes, this drivel matches you exactly.

    Are you in some college course for which you have to write a paper and want us to help out?

    It is dogmatic thinking, not pragmatic thinking, that supports racism. Only a racist would claim that reasoning supports his/her racist opinions as it is claiming that racism can be supported rationally as opposed to based upon beliefs.

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    Re: Pragmatism and Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Well, THAT's a scary argument.
    I think I would interprete his statement as meaning a person can be a racist and foster that racism in terms of him/herself, but should keep quiet about that self to others and in public. Yes, scary.

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