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  • Yes, pragmatism leads to prejudice.

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Thread: Pragmatism and Racism

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    Re: Pragmatism and Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Nope. The weight classes are to pit like people against each other so that there is fairness. After all, its not exactly fair to pit a 120 lb guy vs a 300 lb guy right? You couldn't have picked the worst possible analogy to use to prove your case.
    In other words, you're prejudiced towards weight, but not race.

    Evaluating function versus form isn't practical to everyone.

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    Re: Pragmatism and Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    I do not see that it does. One line jumped out at me, "we cannot even get a sense of whether or not things are changing without systematically recognizing racial difference". This is true even if only for the various traditions and folklore that has been past from generation to generation.

    The discussion within this piece does not convince me that pragmatic thinking encourages racism.
    Pages 25-30 in particular explain how pragmatism advocates a dismissal of complete abstract reasoning in favor of particular concrete reasoning.

    The implication is people should be judged for what they are, not who they are.

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    Re: Pragmatism and Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Pages 25-30 in particular explain how pragmatism advocates a dismissal of complete abstract reasoning in favor of particular concrete reasoning.

    The implication is people should be judged for what they are, not who they are.
    Nevertheless, this is not demonstrative of a racist based paradigm.

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    Re: Pragmatism and Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    Nevertheless, this is not demonstrative of a racist based paradigm.
    Race isn't included among what people are?

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    Re: Pragmatism and Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Race isn't included among what people are?
    Yes, nonetheless , it does not support your theory, "pragmatic thinking in society encourages racist (among generally prejudiced) thought in general"

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    Re: Pragmatism and Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    Yes, nonetheless , it does not support your theory, "pragmatic thinking in society encourages racist (among generally prejudiced) thought in general"
    My point was about attention spans not being the same, so when pragmatism is broadcast, it hits wide and narrow attention spans alike.

    (Even so, you just proved pragmatism does because you merely looked at the surface of what I wrote rather than looking at what's beneath the surface.)

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    Re: Pragmatism and Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    My point was about attention spans not being the same, so when pragmatism is broadcast, it hits wide and narrow attention spans alike.

    (Even so, you just proved pragmatism does because you merely looked at the surface of what I wrote rather than looking at what's beneath the surface.)
    I have thought about your op quite extensively. My answer is still the same should you wish to glean some arcane meaning from my response I wish you well with it.

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    Re: Pragmatism and Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    In other words, you're prejudiced towards weight, but not race.

    Evaluating function versus form isn't practical to everyone.
    I'm not. I'm not into sports.

    In anycase everyone is prejudiced and it has nothing to do with pragmaticism. Do you feel love for someone? If so then why don't you feel love for the murderer? The rapist? How about the one time class bully from a school that got teacher of the year award? Would you feel the same about him/her as others that never experianced that bullying? Being prejudiced is not always a bad thing. There are times when being prejudiced is valid, like against murderers, rapists etc etc.

    Just because you are prejudiced against something/someone does not mean that you are racist though. Racism isn't about pragmaticism anyways. It's about hate and fear. The fear of things different from you and which you don't understand. The hate of the things that you fear.
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    Re: Pragmatism and Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Race isn't included among what people are?
    A person is defined by what they do, not what they are made of.
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    Re: Pragmatism and Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    My point was about attention spans not being the same, so when pragmatism is broadcast, it hits wide and narrow attention spans alike.
    And that is pragmaticisms fault how? It is not the pragmaticism that makes racist dertminations. It is the individuals.
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