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Thread: Navy Seal Book On Bin Laden - Legal Action

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    Re: Navy Seal Book On Bin Laden - Legal Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Disputatious71 View Post
    Another vague reference of opinion assuming details in an unknown agreement !
    According to U.S. officials:

    ...they were surprised by his book, "No Easy Day," which was not vetted by government agencies before its publication to ensure that no secrets were revealed.

    The letter noted that, under the terms of the non-disclosure agreements, the author had agreed to submit any manuscript for pre-publication security review and to obtain permission before publishing it.
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    Reuters - Pentagon threatens legal action over bin Laden book, 'No Easy Day'.

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    Re: Navy Seal Book On Bin Laden - Legal Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    The letter noted that, under the terms of the non-disclosure agreements, the author had agreed to submit any manuscript for pre-publication security review and to obtain permission before publishing it.
    No where does it say that the content of the book was revealing classified information as some have implied, especially since the article and portion you decided to quote and highlight said no governmental agency has reviewed it yet. The author is either looking for a fight with the government or knows beyond a doubt nothing he reveals is in any way classified. mind you the author is a US Navy Seal and most likely has loads of experience dealing with classified data. I would even go so far as to believe any Navy Seal has more experience and knowledge of what constitutes a breach of secrets than whoever at whatever agency the government wants the book reviewed by !
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    Re: Navy Seal Book On Bin Laden - Legal Action

    You have to turn in the book to get vetted, and it does not put "so long as I remain on active duty" as a qualifier on the document. So the guy is in the wrong. Navy SEALs are by and large generally not SSO's, and so it is unlikely that he has superior experience vetting for classification than the people whose job it is, any more than they would be better than he at CQB.

    My bet is, he's pissed, and doesn't really care. I remember being pissed for those guys at the time. Either way the administration comes off the loser - either they have this thorn in their side, impeachably contradicting one of the Administrations' best self-narratives, or they have to be the Administration willing to go after a member of SEAL Team Six who helped kill bin Laden.

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    Re: Navy Seal Book On Bin Laden - Legal Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Disputatious71 View Post
    No where does it say that the content of the book was revealing classified information as some have implied, especially since the article and portion you decided to quote and highlight said no governmental agency has reviewed it yet. The author is either looking for a fight with the government or knows beyond a doubt nothing he reveals is in any way classified. mind you the author is a US Navy Seal and most likely has loads of experience dealing with classified data. I would even go so far as to believe any Navy Seal has more experience and knowledge of what constitutes a breach of secrets than whoever at whatever agency the government wants the book reviewed by !
    All I am saying is the Navy SEAL broke a law, according to those officials, because he did not submit the book to be examined by the government, which he agreed to do in the NDA, hence the highlighted portion.

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    Re: Navy Seal Book On Bin Laden - Legal Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    All I am saying is the Navy SEAL broke a law, according to those officials, because he did not submit the book to be examined by the government, which he agreed to do in the NDA, hence the highlighted portion.
    Finally you make clear what it is you were trying to say, thank you !
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    Re: Navy Seal Book On Bin Laden - Legal Action

    If he signed a disclosure agreement then he shouldn't have told, but I don't think that disciplining him is the way to go. People have the right to know how all the money we have spent looking for Bin Laden was spent, and how he actually died.
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    Re: Navy Seal Book On Bin Laden - Legal Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I'm not really sure if this is true or not but I would assume that "his account" of the events would be something the Pentagon would want sealed regardless of his mission. Specially when his mission only took place a few months ago.

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    With that aside, my position for this guy is that he didn't do anything his career should be tarnished for. If it's true, it's true but he doesn't deserve to be in jail and made out to be a common criminal.
    What WE know may not be the issue. The issue may be what our enemies learn from such a book.
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    Re: Navy Seal Book On Bin Laden - Legal Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Pentagon Tells Ex-SEAL He Could Face Legal Action Over Osama Bin Laden Raid Book, 'No Easy Day' - Yahoo! News <-- clicky



    Is this a freedom of speech thing?
    Or complete stupidity on the part of the "author"?

    Do you support legal action against "author"?
    If he revealed classified information, yes, he should be punished for it accordingly. It's not a matter of freedom of speech, since revealing such information can very easily lead to the deaths of others.

    Accidentally voted sitting on the fence instead of press charges.
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    Re: Navy Seal Book On Bin Laden - Legal Action

    Personally, I don't really think it makes any difference as to whether he actually did reveal any secrets. His responsibility was to let the government look over his shoulder and vet what he has written to ensure that he has not revealed secrets. He gave up the right to determine this fact for himself, and is already unlawfully breaking the agreement.
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