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    Are you for or against vote ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Putting any restriction on the ability to vote is something that should never be done lightly. We currently do not have a widespread problem with fraud that could be stopped by voter ID's. That said, its not exactly beneficial to leave an obvious potential flaw in the integrity of our voting system either. I would say a voter ID requirement is reasonable on the condition that the ID actually be secure and that it has no barriers to obtaining one. The current ID system in the U.S. does not meet the standard required. Currently getting an Id means paying for the privilege of dueling the bureaucracy until they issue you an ID with zero modern security features that can trivially be faked. There needs to be a better ID system before requiring ID to vote can be justified.
    In PA they are giving free voter IDs to people who say they can't afford an ID. So, there are no restrictions here, unless someone is just too lazy to get an ID. But laziness isn't what I would consider a restriction, since if you're too lazy to get a free ID, you're presumably also too lazy to go out and vote.

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    Re: Are you for or against vote ID to vote?

    I am for it if all that is required is a photo ID, even though voter fraud is of tiny tiny percentages. However, the BS in PA is just that, BS in PA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    However, the BS in PA is just that, BS in PA.
    In what way is it BS? They're giving free IDs. They're making sure that no one who wants to vote is left out because of any perceived roadblock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    In what way is it BS? They're giving free IDs. They're making sure that no one who wants to vote is left out because of any perceived roadblock.
    What is the point of doing it? Furthermore, why do it now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    What is the point of doing it? Furthermore, why do it now?
    Why not do it?

    No one is being disenfranchised or discriminated against. To say so is an ignorant argument.

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    Re: Are you for or against vote ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Why not do it?
    There is no reason not to. Likewise, there is no reason to
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    There is no reason not to. Likewise, there is no reason to
    Ok, so PA decided that they're going to do it. What's your problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Ok, so PA decided that they're going to do it. What's your problem?
    There is no point and it is aggravating to hear the same news story over pointless political crap. It really doesn't matter. The percentage of voter fraud is so miniscule that it is near immeasurable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    There is no point and it is aggravating to hear the same news story over pointless political crap. It really doesn't matter. The percentage of voter fraud is so miniscule that it is near immeasurable.
    Well, PA felt that it is necessary. No eligible voter who who wants to vote is being left out. What's the problem?

    If your problem is that you're sick of hearing about it in the news, blame the media.

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    Re: Are you for or against vote ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Well, PA felt that it is necessary. No eligible voter who who wants to vote is being left out. What's the problem?

    If your problem is that you're sick of hearing about it in the news, blame the media.
    It's their job to over exploit a non-issue. And in a brief search I found a case in which a man may not be able to vote even though it is entirely situational.

    Bottom line, it has become a talking point that is aggravatingly redundant and is entirely pointless
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