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    Re: Are you for or against vote ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Actually, it was a question.
    My fault, hasty insinuation. Sorry
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    Re: Are you for or against vote ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Oh, there are similarities. Made up of people. (originally, at least, for the Taliban) a populist movement. Organized (originally, at least) around education. etc.

    But to claim any kind of parity between the movements demonstrates a facile understanding of either. I have actually studied the Taliban, I have seen what the Taliban do. CA's post is just another form of the Godwin Fallacy.
    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Certainly, there are similarities between all organized groups of humans.

    You know who else would have opposed the Tea Party, radcen?

    Hitler.
    This made me chuckle.
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    Re: Are you for or against vote ID to vote?

    well then, now you get it.

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    Re: Are you for or against vote ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    really? you are demonstrating a show by liberals explaining how they think conservatives are bad through the mouthpiece of a nominal "moderate republican" as your great evidence for comparing the Tea Party to the Taliban?



    Yes, because running a primary campaign in which one offers ones' self up to the public for their choice is exactly like throwing acid in little girls faces.



    interesting. so the left which is upset that Obama dropped the public option, or didn't go for single payer, is also like the taliban?



    is not a part of the Tea Party, although there probably is some overlap.

    Nor is that really technically a unique part of the Taliban - all the main Muslim schools of thought believe in the scriptural literalism of the Koran. Are you saying that all Muslims are like the Taliban?



    Is neither an ideological thrust of the Taliban nor part of the Tea Party



    see above. Although this is really just a way of trying to call ones' opposition stupid, and thus detracts from the accuser rather than the accused.



    see unmoved by facts.



    is definitely not part of the Tea Party, as they are very interested in improving America's position.



    Tea Party supporters actually tend to be better educated than the general populace.



    Part of the Taliban but not part of the Tea Party.



    Part of the Taliban but not part of the Tea Party.



    Is a part of every single political movement in the world.



    Please list for me the people the Tea Party have executed lately?



    is definitely not a part of the Tea Party, whose membership often rededicate themselves to reading the founding documents and celebrating the brilliance of the form of government we here in the US have.

    Oh, and you forgot some things

    Totalitarian movement
    Support for terrorism
    Support for political violence




    You are smarter than this, Cap. I realized it probably sounded trite and cute when you heard it, but it's bull****, and you know better than to try to compare a bunch of people who wear funny tricorner hats and demand less government with a group dedicated to totalitarian government and kills children.
    I will agree that the American Taliban, aka, Tea Party, are not the barbaric scum the Afghan Taliban have shown theirselves to be. How could they be? They are, after all, American. The point I am driving home is the tea party is much like the Taliban in the sense that they cannot help themselves from treading on fellow Americans and demanding their ideology be instituted on people, such as myself, that want to have nothing to do with them.

    The irony is, at first, I was very excited about the tea party. But sadly it turned out to be what I consider a curse on our national politics as the most offensive and intolerant of people jumped on the train.

    The clip, no doubt has a liberal lean as the whole show does. I love the series. I could have been the writer. It's as if they have read my mind.
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    Re: Are you for or against vote ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post

    You know who else would have opposed the Tea Party, radcen?


    Hitler.
    and Jesus.

    Don't forget about Him.
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    Re: Are you for or against vote ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I will agree that the American Taliban, aka, Tea Party, are not the barbaric scum the Afghan Taliban have shown theirselves to be. How could they be? They are, after all, American. The point I am driving home is the tea party is much like the Taliban in the sense that they cannot help themselves from treading on fellow Americans and demanding their ideology be instituted on people, such as myself, that want to have nothing to do with them.
    and the point I am trying to bring home to you is that

    A) this is a hyperbolic and ridiculous comparison of two things that are not of the same type. you could make the exact same comparison (that both wish to put their ideology into governance) between Democrats and Nazis.

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    B) you make yourself look like a fool by defending it. you are smarter and better than this, cap.

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    Re: Are you for or against vote ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    and Jesus.

    Don't forget about Him.
    Nah. Jesus went to lengths to be deliberately apolitical; probably so that in the future, people wouldn't try to use him for affirmation of their own or the degradation of another.

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    Re: Are you for or against vote ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    and the point I am trying to bring home to you is that

    A) this is a hyperbolic and ridiculous comparison of two things that are not of the same type. you could make the exact same comparison (that both wish to put their ideology into governance) between Democrats and Nazis.

    and

    B) you make yourself look like a fool by defending it. you are smarter and better than this, cap.
    Personally I do not like either side so your concept really does not mean anything other than two wrongs do not make a right.

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    Re: Are you for or against vote ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    To me its just common sense, how about you?

    It is only common sense to require ID if we require that all citizens have a national ID. That is the foundation of the discussion ... if citizens are not required to have a national ID card then to abruptly require such before an election to cast a ballot is inherently wrong.

    Voter fraud is amplified by either side when politically convenient.
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    Re: Are you for or against vote ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Read 'em and weep.



    And people wonder why I, an avowed pro-lifer, pro-gun, anti-government cheese person turned my back on the Republican party?


    Well, let's take a looksy....

    Taliban:
    Ideological Purity
    Compromise as weakness
    A fundalmentalist belief in scriptual literalism
    Denying Science
    Unmoved by facts
    Undeterred by new information
    A hostile fear of progress
    Demonization of education
    A need to control women's bodies
    Severe Xenophobia
    Tribal mentality
    Intolerance of dissent
    Pathological hatred for the US government


    Tea Party:

    Same as above.

    But don't take my word for it, I was just a "RINO." I don't seem to measure up to today's "republicans," by definition.

    And I thank God for that.
    I am only gona comment on the compromise as a weakness.

    In todays Republican party it is a weakness. A severe one. Compromise requires BOTH sides to come together for MUTUAL benifit. That has not been happening for some time. The Republicans for the past few DECADES have compromised over and over again on various issues and have been pushed to the point that compromise is no longer an acceptable action to me and others. Each time an issue has come up the Republicans have for the most part compromised. The Democrates take the new position and use it to make the Republicans compromise again this time between the old new position and the Democrates new position. This has happened over and over again, each time the benifit of compromise becoming less and less. Compromise now results in NO benifit to me. I and those like me, are not interested in compromise on any basic issues such as the Second admendment, taxes and regulations. My cohorts and I are drawing a line in the sand. No Mas. No More. As we see things our backs are against the wall its crunch time, all or nothing. I wish we could, but unfortunately there is no more room. I hope this claifies things a bit.
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