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I would be in favor of it if it were mandatory to have ID for all Americans and if it was not used as a way to suppress the other guys vote. As those conditions have not been fulfilled at this time, I am going to say no for now.
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The only way the type of fraud I suspect is to expect honesty from postal workers, and whoever else may have access to mail-in ballots, and unfortunately, I don't expect honesty to happen with any regularity these days.Is pretty hard in a place like this for there to be voter/election fraud, but I can easily see in large cities how it could happen
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This is a silly debate, because one side of the debate simply does not CARE about the facts. We can post statistics of how many people lack a form of voter ID. We can post statistics of how incredibly rare/nonexistent voter impersonation is. And the other side still will not reply to these facts or offer any of their own...instead they'll just say "it's common sense" or "well why shouldn't we have voter ID," as though that was the same thing as actually refuting the points. Or worse yet, "people who don't have IDs are too stupid to vote." So really, I don't see the point in having this debate because no one will be swayed by the actual facts.
Voter ID laws are an unconscionable attack on our democracy itself, and anyone who supports these laws after knowing the facts should be ASHAMED of themselves. No short-term political gain is worth the cost to our democracy's credibility.
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ID should be required to vote IMHO. However, in some very rare cases I understand some eligible voters might not have a typical ID, a drivers license. Coincidentally I was speaking with my county Supervisor of Elections on this very matter recently. Here's what we require in my county.
State issued ID. Looks like a drivers license, issued by the DMV but is cheaper.
American Express Card
Any major department store credit card
Home Owners Association ID
Senior citizens community center ID
Government assistance ID card
If you have one of those that has BOTH your signature and photograph, you can vote. Alternately, if you have have two if one has your signature and the other has your photograph. You can also vote by mail with no ID provided you signature matches the signature on file at the elections office. The country buys the postage stamp both ways.
Last edited by Smeagol; 09-02-12 at 11:03 PM.
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They've already been passing these laws since 2000. This is nothing new. It just gets a new surge every two year and a really big surge every 4. Plus any new law has to go through the pre-clearence as I noted before.ALSO since this stuff is going on right now, another reason I would currently be against it is because of the timing of its implementation? if the criteria above isnt met already then I think its wrong. Start it AFTER this election so it can hit the ground running.
my card says:
This card belongs to the SS S and you must return it if we ask for it
Improper use is pinishble by fine and or impresionment
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sign card right away and keep safe
do not carry with you at all times
regardless though I would be fine with it being used lol its meaningless to my point
Im not sure what you are trying to state, agree with or argue against because nothing had an impact. WHat am I missing?
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