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    Re: Are you for or against vote ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    Did you read any of those studies?
    Again most of those studies are most likely done by those against voter ID requirements and seeing how ballots are anonymous there is no way to tell which ballots were cast by actual voters or fraudulent voters.


    The majority of charges in voter fraud are of those who were felons and were not aware of the eligibility. Very few who have been found guilty are actually people posing as other people.



    1000 people was simply put up as a number. The whole point of that statement is that you are not going to find 1000 people to pose as someone else because there is not 1000 people who are willing to risk being caught. The reward is not even remotely worth the risk.



    Minimum penalty for voter fraud is $500 fine and one year in prison along with disenfranchisement. Name one poor liberal who is willing to risk that for the sake of adding one extra vote to the ballot.
    In states that do not require IDs to vote the poll workers do not ask for ID. So how would those fraudulent voters be caught? What if the person claims that the person who came in before him was the fraud?After all the poll workers don't ask for ID so they can't prove if the guy in front of them is the real voter of if the guy whom came in prior is the actual voter. Is the poll worker going to chase down the fraudulent voter? Are there cameras in voting booths so they can track down fraudulent voters? Are poll worker going to call every registered voter in their polling district to see if the registered voter voted? So odds of someone getting caught for voting fraud is extremely low.
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    Re: Are you for or against vote ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    There's no reason not to have it, it's something we should have always had in this country. Voter discrimination is a Democratic boogieman.
    Oh, really? Voter discrimination has NEVER happened before?
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    Re: Are you for or against vote ID to vote?

    If there were any conceivable reason for voter IDs to even exist, then I'd support them. There is currently none. It is just an interfering extra step. Poor people focus more on their blue collar lives than on things like this.

    Voter fraud is virtually nonexistent. I think that with only 10 cases of voter fraud over the last decade, there are two possible scenarios: our justice system is terrible at finding voter fraudsters, or that voter fraud is an insignificant problem.
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    Re: Are you for or against vote ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    Oh, really? Voter discrimination has NEVER happened before?
    Not any time recently or significantly. The Democrats are whining that it'll disenfranchise people who are likely not voting in the first place. It's just a ruse.
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    Re: Are you for or against vote ID to vote?

    I'm against another ID I'd have to dig up only a couple times a year. The cost of a voter ID would be high. If I have to go get one I'd spend at least $100 worth of my time doing it. We have so many other IDs that would be acceptable.
    If someone needs an ID and has none but has been voting correctly, any new ID requirement should be provided without cost to the voter. This should include going to the voters home to provide the ID and to insure that it is not being obtained falsely. If ilegal voting is a problem it is at least worth doing that.

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    Are you for or against vote ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    I'm against another ID I'd have to dig up only a couple times a year. The cost of a voter ID would be high. If I have to go get one I'd spend at least $100 worth of my time doing it. We have so many other IDs that would be acceptable.
    If someone needs an ID and has none but has been voting correctly, any new ID requirement should be provided without cost to the voter. This should include going to the voters home to provide the ID and to insure that it is not being obtained falsely. If ilegal voting is a problem it is at least worth doing that.
    But, your existing driver's license would count as voter ID, so what extra ID would you need to get and dig through?

    And, voter IDs are being provided for free to people who say they can't afford an ID. Should the gubment also bring the voting booth to their homes so that they don't have to be bothered to go anywhere to vote?
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    Re: Are you for or against vote ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
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    No but normally to have one in that area you have to live in that area. For example, if your id was expired and this has happened to me when buying beer, they then wouldn't be able to refuse you.
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    Re: Are you for or against vote ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    If it stops even one person from voting illegally, it's worth it.
    Isn't that the same line they use for drug laws, that if it stops one person from using drugs it's worth it? Funny how the same logic from the other side is suddenly bogus.

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    Re: Are you for or against vote ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    It's a Social Security card, not valid as ID. ID has description and photos. The SS card is just a number, anybody could show you my SS card and you wouldn't have a clue it wasn't me.
    Gosh if only there was something we could put on an SS card for children... like some kind of "imprint"... of a piece of their hand, or something... that would allow them to get picture-versions when they became older, but still with that fundamental nigh-impossible-to-commit-fraud-with-mark.....

    like a imprint of something unique, that could only be you... like i don't know, a palm or a thumb or something. we could call it a "printofathumb"...








    Look, you already have to register. Simply do away with same-day registry and make ID-check and/or issuance part of the registration process. Oh Mrs Smith, you do not have a picture ID, but you are here to register with your birth certificate and SS card? Could you step in front of the camera here, please, and press your thumb on this pad? Thank you, that will be 10 minutes and your card will be ready.... NEXT!

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    Re: Are you for or against vote ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Not any time recently or significantly. The Democrats are whining that it'll disenfranchise people who are likely not voting in the first place. It's just a ruse.

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