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Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nukes?

  • yes

    Votes: 9 18.8%

  • no

    Votes: 39 81.3%
  • Total voters
    48
  • Poll closed .
zstep18 said:
You don't like Arabs/Muslims much, do you?
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The Religion of Cain. Satan's Sandcastle. Howling for Allah in echoes of a pre-historic horror.

The wolf is at the door, its fur soaked in oil, its fangs dripping with blood. And the America-haters want us to pet it.
 
PrometheusBound said:
The next American who goes off on an Apology Tour should not be let back in. Let Big Brotherhood find him a home.
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Speckle and I think alike......we have good ideas.....treating others decently and with respect should be the permanent way of conducting business....we should try this !
Premetheus, I cannot disagree with you more...
 
Connery said:
It would prevent a more grave, deadly situation.
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There is absolutely no proof of that, just as there was no proof of WMD in Iraq.



I understand your description as you feel that anyone who does not agree with you is beneath you. Pity.....
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How about you stick to the topic and stop with the personal attacks.
 
PrometheusBound said:
The Religion of Cain. Satan's Sandcastle. Howling for Allah in echoes of a pre-historic horror.

The wolf is at the door, its fur soaked in oil, its fangs dripping with blood. And the America-haters want us to pet it.
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I regret asking my previous question. A majority of Muslims probably don't have anywhere near the hatred that you have toward them.
 
Bomb Iran? Heck no! Let's start no more wars. We can't afford them. Besides, if they need to be bombed, Israel has done it in the past, and may very well do it again.
 
ecofarm said:
I was taught that principles do not depend on who has more power. How about you?
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The principle of might makes right? I rejected that principal early on.
 
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Catawba said:
Not a believer in property rights?
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Only intellectual property. Western minds created oil-drilling technology, so the oil belongs to us. Nature is not a real estate agent. All these so-called natives stole their land originally from tribes they were more advanced than. Use it or lose it should be property law; the backward nations have never developed their resources, which would go to waste undiscovered if not for Western minds. By the way, taking it down to an individual level, I don't believe in corporate patent contracts either. The inventors should get at least half the royalties, or embezzle or leak out their inventions. Same principle as imperialism, the IQ Empire.
 
PrometheusBound said:
Only intellectual property. Western minds created oil-drilling technology, so the oil belongs to us. Nature is not a real estate agent.
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And the Muslim world developed algebra. So, your logic, all the Western world should be prohibited from teaching algebra.
 
PrometheusBound said:
Only intellectual property. Western minds created oil-drilling technology, so the oil belongs to us. Nature is not a real estate agent. All these so-called natives stole their land originally from tribes they were more advanced than. Use it or lose it should be property law; the backward nations have never developed their resources, which would go to waste undiscovered if not for Western minds. By the way, taking it down to an individual level, I don't believe in corporate patent contracts either. The inventors should get at least half the royalties, or embezzle or leak out their inventions. Same principle as imperialism, the IQ Empire.
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I can't even fathom that kind of thought process.

It's horrific, and a very valid reason why so many outside the USofA hate us.
 
PrometheusBound said:
Only intellectual property. Western minds created oil-drilling technology, so the oil belongs to us. Nature is not a real estate agent. All these so-called natives stole their land originally from tribes they were more advanced than. Use it or lose it should be property law; the backward nations have never developed their resources, which would go to waste undiscovered if not for Western minds. By the way, taking it down to an individual level, I don't believe in corporate patent contracts either. The inventors should get at least half the royalties, or embezzle or leak out their inventions. Same principle as imperialism, the IQ Empire.
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You are in luck! There is a group that shares your in your refusal to acknowledge property rights -

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Catawba said:
The principle of might makes right? I rejected that principal early on.
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Bright Makes Right. That's what this is all about, including the High IQ Jewish race against their cretin neighbors. It's one thing to be kind to the less fortunate, it's another to let them steal the fortune you alone earned.
 
PrometheusBound said:
Bright Makes Right. That's what this is all about, including the High IQ Jewish race against their cretin neighbors. It's one thing to be kind to the less fortunate, it's another to let them steal the fortune you alone earned.
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So, now the the Arab world has a lower IQ? Funny, considering the Arab and Muslim world was responsible for many scientific and innovative achievements which you probably take for granted.
 
hazlnut said:
How about covertly sabotage the program, then when they're close to getting a working weapon, replace the uranium with Rocky Road Ice Cream
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I say we send in dock brown with a pinball machine.


If you didn’t get that reference; it’s from the eighty’s, think “great Scott!”
 
Dragonfly said:
I can't even fathom that kind of thought process.

It's horrific, and a very valid reason why so many outside the USofA hate us.
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Primate nostalgia started here at home, where dumb jock bullies dominate smart kids and get far more rewards and popular respect. The result is this multiculturalist self-hatred, fear and loving for backward Third World bullies.
 
PrometheusBound said:
Bright Makes Right. That's what this is all about, including the High IQ Jewish race against their cretin neighbors. It's one thing to be kind to the less fortunate, it's another to let them steal the fortune you alone earned.
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Great, glad to know Israel is bright enough to know how to handle their neighbors without our support!
 
Catawba said:
The principle of might makes right? I rejected that principal early on.
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The principle that ones values and ethics don't change according to how many people are on ones side. You think it is ok for a country to preemptively attack another country that has not attacked them (Iran vs. US in Iraq) if that country is attacking a more powerful one. But what about Israel vs. Islam? Where's your support there?

Anyway, deciding what is right and wrong according to who has more power is disgusting. That you would include power in the assessment of ethics is loathsome.
 
ecofarm said:
The principle that ones values and ethics don't change according to how many people are on ones side. You think it is ok for a country to preemptively attack another country that has not attacked them (Iran vs. US in Iraq) if that country is attacking a more powerful one. But what about Israel vs. Islam? Where's your support there?

Anyway, deciding what is right and wrong according to who has more power is disgusting. That you would include power in the assessment of ethics is loathsome.
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My principles and ethics do no include sacrificing innocent civilians for control the worlds remaining cheap oil, which was our reason for being in Iraq. Iran is of no military threat to the US, and Israel already has nukes, they can take care of themselves.
 
Catawba said:
My principles and ethics do no include...
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You should just admit that you made a mistake (like sharon should have, when she blamed the Kurds for genocide against them and when she presumed I wanted to wipe out Muslims) and move on. Being ok with preemptive strikes based on the size or power of a country is moronic.
 
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Catawba said:
Your claim was:




Your link does not confirm your claim.
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To me it does together with their threats they can reach US interests with their current weapons. I do not see a reason to tempt fate when Iran has openly declared that they would do harm to the US.

"Iran: We Can Hit 35 US Bases in 'Minutes'"

"Brig. Gen. Amir Ali Hajizadeh, the commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) Aerospace Force, told reporters the U.S. has 35 bases around Iran and all are "within the reach of our missiles" and could be hit "in the early minutes after an attack," according to an English-language report from Iran's semi-official Fars News Agency. The bases were no threat but instead an "opportunity" for the Iranian military, Hajizadeh said according to Fars "....:shock:


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Iran's Islamic Revolution Guards Corps shot off missiles during a televised military drill. (PressTV)





Take your head out of the sand.
 
ecofarm said:
You should just admit that you made a mistake (like sharon, when she blamed the Kurds for genocide against them and when she presumed I wanted to wipe out Muslims) and move on. Being ok with preemptive strikes based on the size of the country is moronic.
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I have never said one word about not starting preemptive wars based on the size of the country. That is your strawman. The point I was making is that I believe in defense only against an actual military threat to this country.

An actual military threat to the United States is what was missing in Vietnam, Iraq, and now Iran.
 
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