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Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nukes?

  • yes

    Votes: 9 18.8%

  • no

    Votes: 39 81.3%
  • Total voters
    48
  • Poll closed .
sharon said:
Well.. then Israel has to give up her nukes.. I really have no hope of that or of any just peace.. so ultimately every country in the region with have nukes.

I used to be hopeful that this bloody mess would be resolved in my lifetime.. but that is not going to happen.
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I disagree. Who are you to make that call for Israel?
 
ecofarm said:
What? We're talking about human rights and representation. That's not exactly imperialism. One minute you disregard any religious person and the next you support running a nation as a dark-age totalitarian theocracy.
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I'm supporting the human ability of self-determination. If they want to live in a dark-age totalitarian theocracy, let them. Anyone who wants out, let's get out. Otherwise, unless they ask us to depose their dictators, they have every right to live in a self-destructive theocratic nightmare if they want to and we have no right whatsoever to demand otherwise.
 
Cephus said:
I'm not the one who believes in an imaginary friend in the sky. I'm sure not the one, as applies to a lot of people in the U.S., who are just keeping Israel around so they can be incinerated in the end of days and bring back Jesus from on high.

So no, I'd say maybe it's you.
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No, you are not a very nice person at all. Face facts.
 
johnny_rebson said:
We're America, we can do whatever we want.
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Unfortunately, we've spent so much time swinging our dick around, thinking we get to tell everyone what to do, that many people are deluded into thinking that.
 
ChrisL said:
Obviously you can't give an honest straightforward answer to the question.
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Obviously, you cannot understand a straightforward response when one is given.
 
ecofarm said:
Well, not whenever they do anything we don't like. But if they go buy skittles and tea I say we put 'em down.
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Which makes you something I'm not allowed to say here.
 
Cephus said:
Which makes you something I'm not allowed to say here.
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I think you are allowed to say that he is a whole lot smarter and more consistent than you.
 
Catawba said:
Obviously, you cannot understand a straightforward response when one is given.
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Obviously you don't know the meaning of a straightforward response.
 
Gardener said:
You think there are lots of Arabs living in Iran, do you?
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I'm pretty sure they are Persians there, maybe a few arabs, but mostly Persians. Probably still pissed about the whole Thermopylea thing, especially after we went and made a movie about it and we claim we derive our Democracy from Greece of that period. Not to mention, just like the Spartans, we have the most kick ass military in the world.
 
DVSentinel said:
I'm pretty sure they are Persians there, maybe a few arabs, but mostly Persians. Probably still pissed about the whole Thermopylea thing, especially after we went and made a movie about it and we claim we derive our Democracy from Greece of that period. Not to mention, just like the Spartans, we have the most kick ass military in the world.
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2% of Iran is Arab, but yes, the majority are Persian at 61%. [Source]
 
johnny_rebson said:
Then how are we supposed to get our oil?
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Simple... you buy it or bid on the job and take your share by agreement.

Oil men are NOT reformers or missionaries.. Aside from training up a labor pool they are not interested in reshaping their culture, religion or traditions.
 
Das Sozialist said:
A No-Fly Zone is a declaration of war, don't you think? What if one was put over us by the Russians and/or Chinese?
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We would kick their asses so hard they would be breathing out of them. BTW, we didn't put them there, the UN did because he was bombing civilian Kurdish viliages and used poison gas to wipe one out in the Shia' Muslim area. But hey, bad comparison for you since without the British and British Commonwealth Countries joining the other side, we could defeat all the other world militaries combined. Might have to increase spending a little, but no real problem doing it. Them being on the other side is the only thing that could really give us much of a challenge. Israeli's are pretty tough and good fighters with a good military, just not enough of them. Outside of the US, Britain, British Commonwealth countries, Japan and Israel, the only other military unit that is worth a damned is the French Foreign Legion, which btw, the French are not allowed to join.
 
DVSentinel said:
We would kick their asses so hard they would be breathing out of them. BTW, we didn't put them there, the UN did because he was bombing civilian Kurdish viliages and used poison gas to wipe one out in the Shia' Muslim area. But hey, bad comparison for you since without the British and British Commonwealth Countries joining the other side, we could defeat all the other world militaries combined. Might have to increase spending a little, but no real problem doing it. Them being on the other side is the only thing that could really give us much of a challenge. Israeli's are pretty tough and good fighters with a good military, just not enough of them. Outside of the US, Britain, British Commonwealth countries, Japan and Israel, the only other military unit that is worth a damned is the French Foreign Legion, which btw, the French are not allowed to join.
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But do you agree with me that it's a declaration of war?
 
This is not about oil.... is about nuclear capabilities.

Mad Mullahs should not have them.
 
Mya said:
This is not about oil.... is about nuclear capabilities.

Mad Mullahs should not have them.
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Ha! "It's all about oil," Thomas Friedman told me, summing up the main motivation behind U.S. foreign policy in the Arab world in just five words.

In a wide-ranging conversation with the HuffPost Live community, Friedman urged that we, as Americans, have missed an opportunity presented by the Arab uprisings to step back and completely "rejigger, rearrange, and reengineer how we [America] relate to this region" and that to do so we have to first listen to the Arab people themselves.

When I shared the widely-held perception held by millions of Arabs that America's government cares far more about its addiction to oil and securing access to it than it does about the Arab people's rights to self-determination and freedom, Friedman responded, "I think they are right... I'd be lying if I said otherwise."

Watch the full interview here:

Thomas Friedman: U.S. Middle East Policy 'All About Oil,' Not Human Rights
 
with all respect .... rubbish!
 
Mya said:
This is not about oil.... is about nuclear capabilities.

Mad Mullahs should not have them.
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Do you know why Saudi Arabia has been stable and prospered over the past 70 years.. They related to American oil men from Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana who also did their dead level best to keep the US government out of their business.

Its the opposite of the British model.
 
sharon said:
Do you know why Saudi Arabia has been stable and prospered over the past 70 years.. They related to American oil men from Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana who also did their dead level best to keep the US government out of their business.

Its the opposite of the British model.
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Yes sharon, but we are talking Iran here , a different kind of beast.
 
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