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Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nukes?

  • yes

    Votes: 9 18.8%
  • no

    Votes: 39 81.3%

  • Total voters
    48
  • Poll closed .
First off, Israel isn't our ally, Israel is using us and has been since 1947. They are banking on the idea that the U.S. is filled with a ton of morons who think Israel has to be protected because it's a material component in their Summon Jesus spell. The whole reason most countries over there hate us is *BECAUSE* we support and defend Israel. If we pulled out, you'd see a whole lot more good will in the Middle East.


This is why you don't get invited to the really good parties...


:mrgreen:
 
That is the question

No.As far as I know we didn't bomb anyone else for getting nukes.So I see no reason we should bomb Iran.Besides that we are broke,so we can't afford another costly war.
 
Nothing, Jesus is dead, if he ever existed at all. Let's try that again, with reality.

I'll try it again if you promise not to be so snarky.
;)
Jesus may be dead, but his teachings have been passed down. And based on his teachng we can deduce that he would never even consider killing innocent women and children.
 
This is why you don't get invited to the really good parties...

Because I tell the truth? Yeah, sucks, doesn't it?
 
I'll try it again if you promise not to be so snarky.
;)
Jesus may be dead, but his teachings have been passed down. And based on his teachng we can deduce that he would never even consider killing innocent women and children.

Unless they stone them to death.
 
I'll try it again if you promise not to be so snarky.

It's not snark, it's honesty.

Jesus may be dead, but his teachings have been passed down. And based on his teachng we can deduce that he would never even consider killing innocent women and children.

Not if you look at the Old Testament where his "father" used to order mass murder and even took a hand in it himself from time to time. Of course, most Christians believe Jesus and God are one and the same, so... do the math.
 
Based on what they've said, they may well launch on Israel based on their messianic Isalmic beliefs, and perhaps the US too if they have anything that can reach us....

Well, you have built that anti-missile system, haven't you? So, why bother?
As to Israel, they have lots of nukes, why not let them deal with Iran?
 
First off, Israel isn't our ally, Israel is using us and has been since 1947. .

You might be right.You might also be wrong.

They are banking on the idea that the U.S. is filled with a ton of morons who think Israel has to be protected because it's a material component in their Summon Jesus spell.
That is true.Many Americans have Israel's dick in their mouths and many of them will make bogus claims of antisemitism if you dare say anything bad about Israel.

The whole reason most countries over there hate us is *BECAUSE* we support and defend Israel. If we pulled out, you'd see a whole lot more good will in the Middle East

That is a piss poor reason to not have someone as a ally. Its like saying don't be friends with the kid with glasses because a lot of people hates the kid with glasses.
 
No, because you are Buzz Killington.. :mrgreen:

I'm sorry reality squelches your buzz. It's still reality. Carry on.
 
Well, you have built that anti-missile system, haven't you? So, why bother?
As to Israel, they have lots of nukes, why not let them deal with Iran?

Israel most likely will not attack Iran unless the US says "okay, go ahead."

Problem with that is that an Izzy attack on Iran would be even more polarizing and likely to provoke drastic over-reaction than the US doing it.

On the whole I'd rather us take care of it... we can take the heat better, we have thousands of miles of oceans offering us a certain amount of buffer zone.

But whatever we're going to do, it had best be fairly soon, or else it will be too late.
 
I'm sorry reality squelches your buzz. It's still reality. Carry on.


No, it is merely your unprovable opinion, and I will carry on nicely thank you. :)
 
That is a piss poor reason to not have someone as a ally. Its like saying don't be friends with the kid with glasses because a lot of people hates the kid with glasses.

But they're not our ally, that's the whole point. Allies work together toward mutually beneficial goals. They're not doing a damn thing for us, they're just sucking up foreign aid money and when we ask them to do anything for us, they flip us the bird. Being allies is not a one-way street, they're just clinging to us for protection, the second they don't need us, they're gone.
 
But whatever we're going to do, it had best be fairly soon, or else it will be too late.

So, you want to prove the Maya right and open the gates of hell?!

Not good, not good at all... Very sad indeed...
 
But they're not our ally, that's the whole point. Allies work together toward mutually beneficial goals. They're not doing a damn thing for us, they're just sucking up foreign aid money and when we ask them to do anything for us, they flip us the bird. Being allies is not a one-way street, they're just clinging to us for protection, the second they don't need us, they're gone.

I don't see how you can say that. You really don't know unless you're privy to government secrets. I'm sure any action Israel takes as an ally isn't announced in the news.
 
It's not snark, it's honesty.



Not if you look at the Old Testament where his "father" used to order mass murder and even took a hand in it himself from time to time. Of course, most Christians believe Jesus and God are one and the same, so... do the math.

No, it's snark.
And I am not "most Christians".
I have studied the teaching of Jesus and his teaching are very clear. Killing innocent woman and children is not something he would ever consider. No matter how you try to spin it.
Neither would Ghandi or Martin Luther King.
 
Optimal scenario would entail Iran backing off their nuclear aspirations for fear of alienating their own people and their respective economic interests, but I don't see that happening due to China and Russia's continued support of Ahmadinejad. Otherwise we will most likely endure a prolonged, watered down rehash of the cold war between multiple parties, and constant threats to interrupt petroleum supply, and other goods in the region, or play a supporting role in an preemptive Israeli military strike. Any of the three above would be preferable to the scenario posed by the OP, which would only strain US relations with virtually every country in the Middle East save Israel, not to mention the international community at large.
 
I am seeing that there are some people who have never been to Iran, do not know any people from Iran and are totally misinformed about the situation in Iran.
Instead of being misinformed and listening to the sabor-rattlers on Fox news and the corporate-driven talk radio hate mongers, how about doing a little research. You have been blessed with a strong mind. So use it. Dont just repeat the soundbites from the Right-wing echo chamber. Show some individuality. Show some intelligence.
 
So, you want to prove the Maya right and open the gates of hell?!

Not good, not good at all... Very sad indeed...


Yeah, people said stuff like that about Iraq too.


Not trying to open them bud, trying to keep them shut. Sometimes you have to get proactive.
 
Based on what they've said, they may well launch on Israel based on their messianic Isalmic beliefs, and perhaps the US too if they have anything that can reach us.... and there are more ways than just by ICBM btw.

What did they say exactly?

They call Israel "the little Satan".... but they call us "The GREAT Satan". Might want to bear that in mind.

That doesn't mean they will attack anyone.
 
What will happen if Iran has nukes?

Iran would never attack the US. We have enough nukes to blow up the world many times over.
Its also unlikely they will get into a nuke shoot-out with Isreal. Anyone remember MAD? Mutually Assured Destruction? In the end, humans are smart enough to realize that nobody wins in a nuclear shoot-out.
 
What did they say exactly?



That doesn't mean they will attack anyone.


Statements by Ahmadinijahd about the messianic 12th Imam, how Israel needs to be destroyed, and how he doesn't care if Iran is destroyed too as long as the conflagration brings about the coming of the 12th Imam and the New Caliphate.
 
They call Israel "the little Satan".... but they call us "The GREAT Satan". Might want to bear that in mind.
No, Glen Beck says that they say that. They do not say that themselves.
Iranian people are good people. You should really try getting to know some. A person is always more educated when they speak on a subject when they have actual experience with whom they are speaking of.
 
Iran would never attack the US. We have enough nukes to blow up the world many times over.

Bolded: totally false statement. There are not enough nukes in existence to blow up the world even once. There are probably not enough nukes to wipe out humanity... almost certainly not.




Its also unlikely they will get into a nuke shoot-out with Isreal. Anyone remember MAD? Mutually Assured Destruction? In the end, humans are smart enough to realize that nobody wins in a nuclear shoot-out.

MAD only works if both sides are somewhat rational. Ahmadinijhad does not appear to be rational. It is a scary prospect that we're hoping the Mullahs that pull his strings are MORE rational than he is.
 
No, Glen Beck says that they say that. They do not say that themselves.
Iranian people are good people. You should really try getting to know some. A person is always more educated when they speak on a subject when they have actual experience with whom they are speaking of.


Dont make assumptions. As it happens I have known Iranians.

I have nothing against them personally. I just don't want their crazy-ass leaders getting nukes.


There is no hate involved on my part, simply a desire that my nation protect itself and its middle-eastern interests.
 
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