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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No, I am opposed to evil, no matter which flag its done under. Some defend it, if its done under our own flag.



    I would go along with the Constitution and say when it is necessary for our defense.
    How are you opposed to evil? You talk against it? Do you really think that is going to stop evil in the world vs blowing them away? We have here a country who's leadership is proven to have committed evil acts, repeatedly, who proclaims they will continue doing evil and are seeking more destructive means for committing their atrocities, and yet, because you claim it may cost innocent lives, you say we should not take action against that evil. Is that how you are opposed to evil?

    It does? Interesting, where in the constitution does it say we shall only employ military force when necessary for our defense? If we are a possible target, isn't taking out the weapons to be used against us defending us?

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    If we are going to intervene every time there is violence and destruction in the world, there will never be a time when we are not at war.
    That is how Bin Laden predicted the US would be defeated:

    "In 2004, Bin Laden released a tape to Al-Jazeera where the former head of Al Qaeda laid out the purpose of the 9/11 attacks, and the organization’s goals. “We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah,” Bin Laden said."

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That is how Bin Laden predicted the US would be defeated:

    "In 2004, Bin Laden released a tape to Al-Jazeera where the former head of Al Qaeda laid out the purpose of the 9/11 attacks, and the organization’s goals. “We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah,” Bin Laden said."

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    So, not only did he want to blow up the WTC and the Pentagon, but he was a contributer to the DNC? Didn't know that. If he was trying to bankrupt us, then those contributions to the DNC are showing great returns.

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    How are you opposed to evil? You talk against it? Do you really think that is going to stop evil in the world vs blowing them away? We have here a country who's leadership is proven to have committed evil acts, repeatedly, who proclaims they will continue doing evil and are seeking more destructive means for committing their atrocities, and yet, because you claim it may cost innocent lives, you say we should not take action against that evil. Is that how you are opposed to evil?

    It does? Interesting, where in the constitution does it say we shall only employ military force when necessary for our defense? If we are a possible target, isn't taking out the weapons to be used against us defending us?


    We have more control of the evil done by us. In order to do that, we must actively participate in the government by not only voting but non-violently protesting when our government does, or proposes to do evil.

    In the Preamble, it says provide for the common defense. What were we defending against in Iraq? What would we be defending against in Iran that meets the standard of common defense of the US?
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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    So, not only did he want to blow up the WTC and the Pentagon, but he was a contributer to the DNC? Didn't know that. If he was trying to bankrupt us, then those contributions to the DNC are showing great returns.
    If you want to talk party responsibility, our most wasteful spending, the GOP war in Iraq, was voted against by the majority of Democrats, vs almost every single Republican that voted for it.
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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We have more control of the evil done by us. In order to do that, we must actively participate in the government by not only voting but non-violently protesting when our government does, or proposes to do evil.

    In the Preamble, it says provide for the common defense. What were we defending against in Iraq? What would we be defending against in Iran that meets the standard of common defense of the US?
    So what is this great evil we have done? I know you mentioned one thing earlier, but that was not truly evil that we did, but was the result of our response to someone else's evil, in the end, the evil we were fighting against actually bears responsibility for those results. What is your definition of evil? Those non-violent protest do sometimes work here where we value human life, but do they work places where the government is the evil they are protesting and that government kills and tortures those speaking out against them? Because they may not be Americans, we should just turn a blind eye to that evil?

    It also says provide for the common welfare. Don't you think fighting wars in other peoples countries is better than doing it in ours? Isn't that better for the general welfare than our civilians being displaced and killed during a war?

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    A single generation does not equate "never a time". If we went to war every time there was violence in the world, there would not be a day we were not at war. Not only that, but we would be involved in countless wars all at once.
    We would? If we are choosing when and where do get involved, would we step into a scenario where there are countless simultaneous wars? What would be the result if we set a definitive policy that we always followed and gave priorities to where we go first, then move on? Sure, we cannot do it all at once, but does that mean we should just give up and not try? You cannot eat a whole sandwich at one time, does that mean you don't eat the sandwich, or do you break it down to manageable bites?

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    We would? If we are choosing when and where do get involved, would we step into a scenario where there are countless simultaneous wars? What would be the result if we set a definitive policy that we always followed and gave priorities to where we go first, then move on? Sure, we cannot do it all at once, but does that mean we should just give up and not try? You cannot eat a whole sandwich at one time, does that mean you don't eat the sandwich, or do you break it down to manageable bites?
    Okay, what would be your solution in today's world, at this point in time? Iran, Afghanistan, most of Africa, North Korea, Venezuela, Russia, China, some places in South America, the list goes on and on. If you think that we can simply just go to one country, fix it up, and move on to the next, that's not reality.

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    If you want to talk party responsibility, our most wasteful spending, the GOP war in Iraq, was voted against by the majority of Democrats, vs almost every single Republican that voted for it.
    It being wasteful spending is you opinion, not a proven fact. I personally see us wasting far more money uselessly on welfare, medicaid, HUD and other completely useless programs. On the other hand, removing one of the most evil leaders in the world was definitely a good thing for mankind. But then again, that is only my opinion, not a proven fact.

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    If Iran continues on its nuclear path and continues to make anti-Israel threats I think military action is necessary. We cannot allow Iran to obtain nuclear weapons and military action is essential if they do not change.
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