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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    I don't think she said anything about giving nuclear weapons to anyone.
    She said ~"no one should have them or everyone should have them". Are you proposing that Syria must develop its own nuke? How is that fair?

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Well.. then Israel has to give up her nukes..
    Whether anyone likes it or not the facts are India, Pakinstan, Israel and North Korea are not signatories of the NPT. They have chosen not to sign. Iran is a voluntary signatory of the NPT and so they have to abide by its rules. At the end of the day Iran signed up to the NPT voluntarily for the good of the cause to stop the proliferation of nuclear weapons. If Iran is not being upfront with the IAEA and want to build nuclear weapons they could simply pull out of the NPT just as North Korea did. Obviously though that's not an ideal scenario either but to say just let them have them because Israel does just doesn't make any sense.

    There's many of us who don't want to see it escalate into full scale war between Israel and Iran because we know the human cost will be significant and that's what makes me pissed at Iranian leaders. There is no doubt about it Sharon, they are not being as co operative as they could be to halt the situation escalating.

    I still hope political and diplomatic efforts can be made to settle Iran's nuclear issue to achieve a peaceful settlement. It is looking less likely though.
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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Israel is so afraid that they don't want Iran to be prosperous or stable...
    You really think that is the problem? If so, that's sad. An invasion is the quickest way to a free, prosperous and developing Iran. Who wants "stable" when the country is in the dark ages?

    I don't think much of the Iranian government...
    A sideways complement? Are you joking?

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    We should give Syria and Somalia nukes; right, sharon? How ludicrous.
    I didn't say anything about giving anyone nukes.. But, after 50 years of demanding that the ME and North Africa be nuke free, its come to this sorry impasse.

    Everyone wants a nuke to insure their safety and sovereignty..

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    I didn't say anything about giving anyone nukes..
    You said no one or everyone gets them.

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You really think that is the problem? If so, that's sad. An invasion is the quickest way to a free, prosperous and developing Iran. Who wants "stable" when the country is in the dark ages?

    A sideways complement? Are you joking?
    I spent a lot of time in Iran.. and they are not in the dark ages.. They have always had fine universities and medical schools as well a a rich culture.

    Do you remember about 2 years ago Jordan and Russia announced a joint venture to build nuclear power and desalination facilities? Jordan is desperate for water.

    Jordan also has lots and lots of uranium which they could sell... and they are a somewhat impoverished country.

    Israel immediately challenged Jordan's right to develop nuclear power even tho' Amman said they would throw open their doors to any and all inspectors.

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    A majority of us are sane and rational, and probably realize that we have a world organization, the UN.
    Those others, probably 95% tea-bagging conservatives, believe that the UN has failed (in truth, the UN has not been 100% successful).
    I believe that there are better ways to achieve our ends....Given time, all nations "grow up", even ours.
    The keyword is time.
    The "Arab Spring" will hit North Korea, Iran , Syria, and even give us a nudge or two.

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You said no one or everyone gets them.
    Quote me EXACTLY or don't.

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    The "Arab Spring" will hit North Korea.
    Now, THAT was funny. Keep 'em coming.
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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    Whether anyone likes it or not the facts are India, Pakinstan, Israel and North Korea are not signatories of the NPT. They have chosen not to sign. Iran is a voluntary signatory of the NPT and so they have to abide by its rules. At the end of the day Iran signed up to the NPT voluntarily for the good of the cause to stop the proliferation of nuclear weapons. If Iran is not being upfront with the IAEA and want to build nuclear weapons they could simply pull out of the NPT just as North Korea did. Obviously though that's not an ideal scenario either but to say just let them have them because Israel does just doesn't make any sense.

    There's many of us who don't want to see it escalate into full scale war between Israel and Iran because we know the human cost will be significant and that's what makes me pissed at Iranian leaders. There is no doubt about it Sharon, they are not being as co operative as they could be to halt the situation escalating.

    I still hope political and diplomatic efforts can be made to settle Iran's nuclear issue to achieve a peaceful settlement. It is looking less likely though.
    Serenity: this is not one-sided problem.. and its not a new problem. Israel is as much to blame as Iran..

    And the Saudi Peace initiative turns to dust.

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