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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    This is not about oil.... is about nuclear capabilities.

    Mad Mullahs should not have them.

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    This is not about oil.... is about nuclear capabilities.

    Mad Mullahs should not have them.
    Ha! "It's all about oil," Thomas Friedman told me, summing up the main motivation behind U.S. foreign policy in the Arab world in just five words.

    In a wide-ranging conversation with the HuffPost Live community, Friedman urged that we, as Americans, have missed an opportunity presented by the Arab uprisings to step back and completely "rejigger, rearrange, and reengineer how we [America] relate to this region" and that to do so we have to first listen to the Arab people themselves.

    When I shared the widely-held perception held by millions of Arabs that America's government cares far more about its addiction to oil and securing access to it than it does about the Arab people's rights to self-determination and freedom, Friedman responded, "I think they are right... I'd be lying if I said otherwise."

    Watch the full interview here:

    Thomas Friedman: U.S. Middle East Policy 'All About Oil,' Not Human Rights
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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    with all respect .... rubbish!

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    This is not about oil.... is about nuclear capabilities.

    Mad Mullahs should not have them.
    Do you know why Saudi Arabia has been stable and prospered over the past 70 years.. They related to American oil men from Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana who also did their dead level best to keep the US government out of their business.

    Its the opposite of the British model.

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Do you know why Saudi Arabia has been stable and prospered over the past 70 years.. They related to American oil men from Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana who also did their dead level best to keep the US government out of their business.

    Its the opposite of the British model.
    Yes sharon, but we are talking Iran here , a different kind of beast.

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    Then how are we supposed to get our oil?
    Are you really aware of where our oil comes?
    Percentages from 2007 http://www.consumerenergyreport.com/...-its-oil-from/
    From 2012 Where Does America Get Oil? You May Be Surprised : NPR
    Canada is by far the largest importer of oil to the US, almost double what Saudi Arrabia inports.
    Wow, only 12.9% from the entire Persian gulf region. As you can see from the links, it dropped from 16% in 2007. It was also pretty low back when we were "fighting wars for oil" and after. In fact, oil from the Persian gulf has been below 20% of our oil for a very longtime now. If we were fighting the wars for oil, Venesuela is a hell of a lot closer, still run by an evil bastard and would of gotten us more for our money.

    Also take a close look, our domestic share of our own oil market has dropped 3.2% since Obama took office. Imports have been decreasing in total volume also. (U.S. Total Crude Oil and Products Imports) you will notice that from 2006 to 2008 (data from that site available for Bush Era and pre-economic crash) our imports fell by 276,088 thousand barrels or 138,044 thousand barrels per year average, under Obama, the 4 year drop has been 580,728 thousand barrels. or 145,182 thousand barrels per year average. So, after the economic crash, with a stagnant economy, the Obama administration only has reduced our dependence by 7,138 thousand barrels per year. Way to go Obama, hell, just the economic collapse could account for that much change.

    Persian gulf oil simply is not that big of a deal for the US. We could fairly easily make up that 13% from elsewhere. Hell, if the russians would actually let our companies go in and drill (they are blocking it to protect domestic drilling operations), we could tell the whole persian golf area to piss off as far as oil is concerned. Of course, if the Obama administration would actually (in deed not word) reopen the American Gulf Coast, we could make a huge dent in that percentage ourselves.
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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    The Iraq War, part 2 was the biggest scam ever pulled on America. It made no sense. But certain people made 100s of billions of dollars. Friends of contributor's kids were sent to "manage" the various Iraqi Ministries. So, yeah, the WMD thing was just wishful thinking and a path toward a big, fat, profitable war where America couldn't possibly lose. Iraqi's were happy to see us. We killed a bad man. A multi-trillion dollar adventure.

    Iran is different. They may be cuckoo but they also have a lot of intelligent scientists and engineers. They make cars. They're a real country in spite of the religious madness.

    It seems like the Israeli's want to do this. They are just as capable as we are. They have one of the best Air Forces in the world. So, this seems real good except for the backlash.

    IF we are SURE they are building a nuke, unchain Israel. If not sure, we better give this more thought. Wars are good for MIC business but they're tough on us ordinary folk. I see more and more disabled soldiers who look as sad and crazed as those who were in Vietnam. Another disabled generation. It's easy to enter a war. It's not so easy for all this promise to die or be injured.



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    Even if it isn't real.

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    Yes sharon, but we are talking Iran here , a different kind of beast.
    Apparently, not to some people. Then again, arguing against a nuclear weapons policy of "no one or everyone" is ridiculous in the first place.
    Last edited by ecofarm; 08-30-12 at 01:29 AM.

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    We should give Syria and Somalia nukes; right, sharon? How ludicrous.

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    We should give Syria and Somalia nukes; right, sharon? How ludicrous.
    I don't think she said anything about giving nuclear weapons to anyone.

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