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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    This is what I don't get. You will rail against the slightest bit of religion in the US, but a totalitarian theocracy you have no trouble with (even them getting nukes). Where's the consistency?



    This particularly glaring hypocrisy seems to be a VERY consistent feature of these forums.
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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Rafsanjani laid out their rationalization for why they want to nuke Israel years ago.

    RAFSANJANI SAYS MUSLIMS SHOULD USE NUCLEAR WEAPON AGAINST ISRAL
    We're Israel? Since when?

    And Rafsanjani is an adviser, his opinions matter little when it comes to foreign policy.

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Why is it too late? Why does it not matter now?


    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    NK is known to already have nukes and to have detonated a couple. The best window of opportunity has already passed. WE should not make the same mistake twice...

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    This particularly glaring hypocrisy seems to be a VERY consistent feature of these forums.
    Well I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't want the U.S. to kill the citizens. It's the government that's the problem, not the citizens (or not the majority of the citizens anyway). This issue has nothing to do with religion for me.

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    "Those in the United States who genuinely yearn for war are still a neoconservative minority. But the danger that war might break out—and that the hawks will get their way—has nonetheless become substantial. The U.S. has just withdrawn the last troops from one Middle Eastern country where it fought a highly costly war of choice with a rationale involving weapons of mass destruction. Now we find ourselves on the precipice of yet another such war—almost purely because the acceptable range of opinion on Iran has narrowed and ossified around the “sensible” idea that all options must be pursued to prevent the country from acquiring nuclear weapons.

    Given the momentousness of such an endeavor and how much prominence the Iranian nuclear issue has been given, one might think that talk about exercising the military option would be backed up by extensive analysis of the threat in question and the different ways of responding to it. But it isn’t. Strip away the bellicosity and political rhetoric, and what one finds is not rigorous analysis but a mixture of fear, fanciful speculation, and crude stereotyping. There are indeed good reasons to oppose Iranian acquisition of nuclear weapons, and likewise many steps the United States and the international community can and should take to try to avoid that eventuality. But an Iran with a bomb would not be anywhere near as dangerous as most people assume, and a war to try to stop it from acquiring one would be less successful, and far more costly, than most people imagine."

    The Washington Monthly - The Magazine - We Can Live with a Nuclear Iran
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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Why is it too late? Why does it not matter now?


    NK is complex. For one thing the NKs have an enormous amount of conventional artillery stationed within range of Seoul, the capital of SK. The NKs boast that this array of artillery could utterly destroy Seoul within 20 minutes of the start of any military action. The SK's are therefore pretty nervous about the idea of resuming hostilities.


    At this point it is generally not believed that the NK's have a nuke small enough to fit on a missle, but there is always some uncertainty about intel. They do appear to have functional nukes however, and there are other ways to use them besides putting them on a missle.

    The thing is once a "rogue nation" HAS nukes, dealing with them just became an order of magnitude more dangerous.... because they might well USE them.

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    I don't think anyone knows what they would do with nuclear weapons. I do have to ask myself why do they want them though.

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I don't think anyone knows what they would do with nuclear weapons. I do have to ask myself why do they want them though.
    I'm guessing for the same reason we want to keep them.
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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I don't think anyone knows what they would do with nuclear weapons. I do have to ask myself why do they want them though.
    I'd want nuclear weapons too if I was being publicly threatened by a superpower and it's puppet.

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I'm guessing for the same reason we want to keep them.
    You still have to wonder if they have intentions against Israel though. They DO hate Israel.

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