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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Are you claiming that we struck illegal targets?
    No, I am saying that we knowingly bombed dual use targets that resulted in the deaths of a million innocent Iraqis, mostly children.

    "A key example of such dual-use targeting was the destruction of Iraqi electrical power facilities in Desert Storm. While crippling Iraq’s military command and control capability, destruction of these facilities shut down water purification and sewage treatment plants. As a result, epidemics of gastroenteritis, cholera, and typhoid broke out,2 leading to perhaps as many as 100,000 civilian deaths and a doubling of the infant mortality rate."

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    No

    I've had this debate before, CHINA and RUSSIA are BFFs with the Islamic Republic of Iran. It is likely, though not certain, that they could use our attacking Iran as an excuse to bomb us at home

    Not to mention we've had a nice run with Stuxnet and Flame. Keep up the cyber warfare instead.
    ROTFLMAO. They might say, don't do that in the UN, but Russia sure as heal ain't going to put it's ass on the line for Iran and niether is China. They are not BFFs, don't have a clue where you ever got that one from. China's economy is also too tied in with ours, they would bitch and moan, but they wouldn't even do more than say "bad US" if we decided to take out NK. Why, because China does not have the capability to take us completely out and leaving even a part of us around afterwards would introduce them to a new level of hurt. No, they are not even slightly likely to cross the line of MAD. As far as conventionally, neither would be a great challenge to us and they know it. Unlike muslim extremist, they have no record of suicidal behavior.

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No, I am saying that we knowingly bombed dual use targets that resulted in the deaths of a million innocent Iraqis, mostly children.

    "A key example of such dual-use targeting was the destruction of Iraqi electrical power facilities in Desert Storm. While crippling Iraq’s military command and control capability, destruction of these facilities shut down water purification and sewage treatment plants. As a result, epidemics of gastroenteritis, cholera, and typhoid broke out,2 leading to perhaps as many as 100,000 civilian deaths and a doubling of the infant mortality rate."

    Bombing Dual-Use Targets: Legal, Ethical, and Doctrinal Perspectives
    Well, sucks to be them, but better them than our GI's if those sights hadn't been taken down.

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    It wouldn't be necessary, though.

    You know what? I hope you're right... but I'm concerned that if we sit and do nothing, we're going to find out that we missed a mighty good opportunity to keep nukes out of loony hands, and that we're going to deeply regret that missed opportunity.

    We'll see.

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    I am not deciding. But frankly my countrymen, friends and allies are of course more valuable to me than the opposing (enemy) population, duh. If it was me actually deciding, the current Iranian government would of ceased to exist shortly after Reagan took office. My vote is not deciding, it is merely stating my approval. If those civilians want to protect themselves against us bombing them, then hey, they attack their government and it's nuke facilities otherwise, well, it sucks to be them.
    You mean the civilians who probably have no idea those nuclear facilities exist? The civilians who lack a free press and have censored internet?

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Look what happened to those poor people when they tried to protest a couple years ago.

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Look what happened to those poor people when they tried to protest a couple years ago.
    Who says revolution is easy?
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Who says revolution is easy?
    It's kind of hard to have a revolution when you have no weapons.

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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Well, sucks to be them, but better them than our GI's if those sights hadn't been taken down.

    I don't know why I expected a more reasoned response to the ethical issues of dual use targeting, than "sucks to be them!" How about we get off our ass and produce our own energy rather than putting young soldiers in harm's way unnecessarily in the first place?
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    Re: Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    You mean the civilians who probably have no idea those nuclear facilities exist? The civilians who lack a free press and have censored internet?
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    If you want to care more about their civilians than ours, there you go, you have a quarter, call someone who cares.

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