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Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nukes?

  • yes

    Votes: 9 18.8%

  • no

    Votes: 39 81.3%
  • Total voters
    48
  • Poll closed .
ChrisL said:
The way the treat their citizens is just disgusting.
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To you, perhaps. Their citizenship, however, apparently feels differently about it. I love how people act like they get to impose their own social order on everyone everywhere because apparently, the U.S. is #1, especially in our own minds.

They have every right to set their own standards, adopt their own cultures and act the way they want toward the people who choose to live there.
 
ChrisL said:
What the hell does that mean? It HAS been? Is it or isn't it? Is Obama insane? Is Congress insane?
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While i would prefer a liberal in the white house instead of Obama, I do give him credit for ending the GOP war in Iraq, as the Republican candidate Romney said it was too soon to end it, and McCain had previously said he was fine with us being there a hundred years.
 
ChrisL said:
There is a difference between an insane regime that tortures and kills it's own citizens indiscriminately and a country that carries out a bombing during a war! :roll: It's not working.
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How is there a difference? Both are killing innocent civilians. You're murdering people either way.
 
johnny_rebson said:
What about the WMD?
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There weren't any.. Come on.. Iraq was crippled by two decades of war and sanctions. When our guys were capturing refrigerated step vans and calling them mobile bio weapons labs, I nearly broke down and cried.

Or better yet... that Saddam was trucking his WMDs back and forth between Syria and Sudan.
 
Catawba said:
Of what threat were the Iraqis to the US?
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/shrug, I have no idea what you believe. But since shortly before the war happened he still shot missles at our airplanes enforcing the No Fly zone, and me being one of the persons sometimess on those planes he occasionally shot at, maybe I took it a bit personal. But the fact that I was depoloyed to the region and didn't receive civilian news for a longtime during that time period, only intel briefs, I cannot actually reply to discussions on the subject of why we invaded and also why I refrain from discussing reasons and what I know was going on. Why did we invade, simple, the President ordered us to, so we did it. Why did he order us to, something I will not discuss, but my personal feelings was "it's about damned time", really don't care about why he finally made the decision, I believed in it, still do and have absolutely unshakable faith that it was right (kind of have to keep that faith, knowing you helped kill thousands of people would kind of screw up your mind if you didn't have absolute faith that you were right to do so.)
 
Catawba said:
While i would prefer a liberal in the white house instead of Obama, I do give him credit for ending the GOP war in Iraq, as the Republican candidate Romney said it was too soon to end it, and McCain had previously said he was fine with us being there a hundred years.
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Obviously you can't give an honest straightforward answer to the question.
 
Cephus said:
I love how people act like they get to impose their own social order on everyone everywhere because apparently, the U.S. is #1, especially in our own minds.

They have every right to set their own standards, adopt their own cultures and act the way they want toward the people who choose to live there.
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What? We're talking about human rights and representation. That's not exactly imperialism. One minute you disregard any religious person and the next you support running a nation as a dark-age totalitarian theocracy.
 
ecofarm said:
Everyone has a right to be free and they have the resources to nation build like an Asian Tiger. All tyranny is a threat to US interests.
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You can't bomb and kill people into democracy.. and shouldn't try.. If democracy had ever been our goal we wouldn't have tried to assassinate the mosadeegh three times.

What US interests? Do you mean oil? They have always been willing to sell us oil.
 
ecofarm said:
What? We're talking about human rights and representation. That's not exactly imperialism.
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Don't you love it when people talk about the Iranian people as if they have "choices."
 
ecofarm said:
It seems some people have 3 arguments:

1. The US nukes civilians, so what are we worried about?
2. Fk Israel (my favorite defense of Iran, haha).
3. Iran getting nukes is fair.

It's hard to believe, but I seen it.
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And you've successfully argued against none of it. You just wave your arms around feigning offense, like that actually proves any of it wrong.
 
sharon said:
You can't bomb and kill people into democracy.. and shouldn't try.. If democracy had ever been our goal we wouldn't have tried to assassinate the mosadeegh three times.

What US interests? Do you mean oil? They have always been willing to sell us oil.
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I don't want anyone to be killed, but I also don't want the crazy leaders of Iran to have nuclear weapons.
 
ecofarm said:
What? We're talking about human rights and representation. That's not exactly imperialism. One minute you disregard any religious person and the next you support running a nation as a dark-age totalitarian theocracy.
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I spent alot of time in the ME.. Its their culture, their religion, their traditions.
 
ecofarm said:
That's my main objection to Iran getting nukes.
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So you can bomb the crap out of them at your leisure, whenever they do something you don't like?

That's stupid.
 
sharon said:
You can't bomb and kill people into democracy.. and shouldn't try.
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Worked for Japan. And look what then happened.
 
ChrisL said:
I don't want anyone to be killed, but I also don't want the crazy leaders of Iran to have nuclear weapons.
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Well.. then Israel has to give up her nukes.. I really have no hope of that or of any just peace.. so ultimately every country in the region with have nukes.

I used to be hopeful that this bloody mess would be resolved in my lifetime.. but that is not going to happen.
 
Cephus said:
Your inability to make a rational point noted. But hey, why start now?
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What are you talking about? That was the point I wanted to make. :2razz:
 
ChrisL said:
Or maybe it's just you.
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I'm not the one who believes in an imaginary friend in the sky. I'm sure not the one, as applies to a lot of people in the U.S., who are just keeping Israel around so they can be incinerated in the end of days and bring back Jesus from on high.

So no, I'd say maybe it's you.
 
Cephus said:
So you can bomb the crap out of them at your leisure, whenever they do something you don't like?

That's stupid.
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Well, not whenever they do anything we don't like. But if they go buy skittles and tea I say we put 'em down.
 
DVSentinel said:
/shrug, I have no idea what you believe. But since shortly before the war happened he still shot missles at our airplanes enforcing the No Fly zone, and me being one of the persons sometimess on those planes he occasionally shot at, maybe I took it a bit personal.
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A No-Fly Zone is a declaration of war, don't you think? What if one was put over us by the Russians and/or Chinese?
 
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