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  • Yes - rebuild it every time it's hit

    8 22.86%
  • yes - rebuild it, but make this the last time

    2 5.71%
  • no - it's time to end the foolishness

    21 60.00%
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Thread: How Many Times Should America Rebuild New Orleans?

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    Re: How Many Times Should America Rebuild New Orleans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    You are most certainly not a Taoist is you moved from a place you truly loved to some place else simply to make more money.
    Are you saying there is something wrong with making money?
    What are you,a communist?

    Please show me where in any taoist scripture where that is forbidden?
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    You are also most surely not a Taoist for thinking it's man's right to combat nature and earth in the way we are doing it in New Orleans.
    Where have I said that?All I have been saying that there are myriad of reasons why people live where they live.Stupidity is not the only reason.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Stop calling everybody a sociopath for discussing something fundamentally rational.
    Why?Sociopaths never seem to have a problem rationalizing their actions.
    If people have the right to state their opinions here,then so do I.
    No on e here has to like them,nor am I require to like theirs.
    I think there are a lot of sociopaths here.
    That's just my opinion,deal with it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Would you build a house inside the crater of a once active volcano?
    Would you build a house on a major floor plain?
    Would you build a house on the slope of a mountain where major avalanches are common at least once a decade?

    Would you move your family into any one of those houses and sleep soundly at night?
    This isn't about me,this is about the people of New Orleans,and you have yet to detail how they should all be moved even after I asked you to.
    You seem to have all the answers lets have them.

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    Re: How Many Times Should America Rebuild New Orleans?

    Isn't aiding other American in time of crisis what we do as a people?

    If Americans were to vacate every part of the nation with risk attached, what would be left?

    The North east part of New England has brutal winters that kill lots of people annually and ocean front that people drown in and boats capsize in.
    The South gets hit by storms and hurricanes wreaking death and devastation periodically.

    The midwest is known as tornado alley and the area bordering the Mississippi River has known lethal floods wiping out homes and even entire towns.
    The southwest is hit by drought almost every year it seems.
    California is in a major earthquake zone and has devastating fires.

    Where do we jam those 311 million people that is safe?
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    Re: How Many Times Should America Rebuild New Orleans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Of course it's an option.

    This isn't the 1700's.

    There are ways of shipping things into and out of the country that don't require the exact geographic location where NO sits now.

    Go a bit farther up river until you find a spot that is NOT BELOW SEA LEVEL.
    I'm still waiting for someone to detail how such a feat can be done and how to,pay for it?

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    Re: How Many Times Should America Rebuild New Orleans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Of course it's an option.

    This isn't the 1700's.

    There are ways of shipping things into and out of the country that don't require the exact geographic location where NO sits now.

    Go a bit farther up river until you find a spot that is NOT BELOW SEA LEVEL.
    If you went farther up the Mississippi River, then you're no longer at the mouth of the river with access to the Gulf of Mexico. You're just at some random spot on the Mississippi River. And that doesn't work because logistically, the kind of ships that can carry freight on the Mississippi River are generally not the same kind of ships that can carry freight on the ocean, and vice versa.
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    Re: How Many Times Should America Rebuild New Orleans?

    From a Taoist standpoint, wouldn't allowing nature to take back that specific area of the planet actually save lives and put an end to much human suffering?

    Working with nature, and not against it?

    If you truly want to do what is best for people in that area, you would not make it easier for them to stay there would you?

    If there's a large, starving population living in an area where no food can be grown, and little water is available, would you be helping them by sending them food and water? Or would it be better for all to relocate them to some place where they can grow food and have their own water?

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    Re: How Many Times Should America Rebuild New Orleans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    I'm still waiting for someone to detail how such a feat can be done and how to,pay for it?
    Keep waiting my friend. Nobody who suggested it wants to spend penny one on such a task. They simply think they can dispense their advice and all those poor folks should do it on their own with no help from anyone - especially the hated and demonized government.
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    Re: How Many Times Should America Rebuild New Orleans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    I'm still waiting for someone to detail how such a feat can be done and how to,pay for it?
    Thats easy, expand capacity at other existing ports and the increased volume of traffic at those ports would pay for it. If it absolutely has to go onto the Mississippi River, move it up to Baton Rouge, if not, there is Houston and other ports on the gulf that are not that far away and wouldn't significantly increase shipping costs.

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    Re: How Many Times Should America Rebuild New Orleans?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Isn't aiding other American in time of crisis what we do as a people?
    Apparently not anymore.We live in an age of "I got mine,screw everyone else".It's every man and woman for themselves.
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    If Americans were to vacate every part of the nation with risk attached, what would be left?
    Canada?
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    The North east part of New England has brutal winters that kill lots of people annually and ocean front that people drown in and boats capsize in.
    The South gets hit by storms and hurricanes wreaking death and devastation periodically.

    The midwest is known as tornado alley and the area bordering the Mississippi River has known lethal floods wiping out homes and even entire towns.
    The southwest is hit by drought almost every year it seems.
    California is in a major earthquake zone and has devastating fires.

    Where do we jam those 311 million people that is safe?
    Apparently not Chicago,Miami,or Texas.

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    Re: How Many Times Should America Rebuild New Orleans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    And those are real human people living in that part of the real world.People who have friends,family and other people who love them.
    In the real world,apparently there are a lot of sociopaths who delight in the thought of or just don't care about humans suffering.
    Wouldn't continuously rebuilding a failing area cause more suffering?

    Wouldn't relocating the city lessen that suffering if the city was moved to a more stable environment, one not below sea level?

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    Re: How Many Times Should America Rebuild New Orleans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post



    Apparently not Chicago,Miami,or Texas.
    Well you know that right wingers would never live in Chicago because they keep telling horror stories of the dead arising every election day and wandering from voting place to voting place.

    Miami has those terrible seasonal storms.

    And Texas ....... Texas is Texas. It is definitely NOT for everyone. Having been there once I hope that 25 years from now I can still say the same thing.
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