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The Food Stamp President

Is it a racist remark?

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Mya said:
ahhhhh ok thank you :)

and why do they have so many kids if they can not feed them?
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Maybe their jobs got outsourced?
 
Schutzengel said:
Please cite this... I have never heard that and if so it is disgusting, if it is what you say it is...
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Just google "Newt Gingrich southern strategy' and take your pick. Karl Rove wrote an opinion piece in the WSJ that said he didn't think Newt's southern strategy would work in the rest of the country like it would in southern states. I guess he was right about that but it hasn't stopped Newt from doing it now that he isn't a candidate anymore.
 
It's funny how the states which rely most on government programs are red states.
 
Every possible "program" there ever has been or will be is "socialistic". We couldn't function without it. Now, how much for whom are issues of debate. But a country of 307M people without SOME programs would probably not be a very nice or safe place to be in.

We suffer from an overabundance of programs, many poorly thought through, executed or guarded. The USG kind of sucks, for sure.

At least this one makes SOME sense and probably does far more good than harm.



Mya said:
Wow! that's interesting .... like very socialist isn't it?
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Moot said:
Just google "Newt Gingrich southern strategy' and take your pick. Karl Rove wrote an opinion piece in the WSJ that said he didn't think Newt's southern strategy would work in the rest of the country like it would in southern states. I guess he was right about that but it hasn't stopped Newt from doing it now that he isn't a candidate anymore.
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It's one thing to have others say it... did NEWT ever say that was his goal, to go for a "Southern Strategy"

I am sure he wanted to win all of them not just the south...

Besides, even though he may have his moments of clarity, for the most part gingrich is a weasel.
 
Mya said:
huh? I don't understand
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Maybe they didn't need assistance when they had the kids, but their financial situation changed after having kids.
 
Schutzengel said:
I guess POLITICALLY I could see why one would continue a "Southern Strategy" if it worked... but it doesn't
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Tell that to Romney.

I still havent found where Newt said that he was going for a "Southern Strategy" ... but I will keep looking.

Also, Reagan won a heck of a lot more states than just the south,

in 1980,

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and he won 49 states in 1984


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... I dont think for a moment you can accuse him of a "Southern Strategy"
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Well, you could have just read the link I provided and followed the sources at the bottom of the page. But that was probably too easy.
 
Mya said:
ahhhhh ok thank you :)

and why do they have so many kids if they can not feed them?
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Probably because they don't have access to sex education, contraception or abortions.
 
Because they are fools, some irresponsible, some following religious or ethnic influences. In my fantasy world, you'd need a $5K permit to bear a child and that 5K can start its Mandatory Savings Account that will replace Social Security if I am elected.

Mya said:
ahhhhh ok thank you :)

and why do they have so many kids if they can not feed them?
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Where is this place? Isn't all this stuff still legal? I sure agree with you on sex education but the problem doesn't only come from the young.

Moot said:
Probably because they don't have access to sex education, contraception or abortions.
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specklebang said:
Every possible "program" there ever has been or will be is "socialistic". We couldn't function without it. Now, how much for whom are issues of debate. But a country of 307M people without SOME programs would probably not be a very nice or safe place to be in.

We suffer from an overabundance of programs, many poorly thought through, executed or guarded. The USG kind of sucks, for sure.

At least this one makes SOME sense and probably does far more good than harm.
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yes ... well... sometime democracies seem to copy socialist and communist ideas ... don't they? that's strange isn't it? It's funny almost! do they have faith in them? why do they do it? weird! :2razz:
 
For the same reason that the former Communist countries now embrace Capitalism. These things are NOT mutually exclusive. Ayn Rand taught me that:)

Mya said:
yes ... well... sometime democracies seem to copy socialist and communist ideas ... don't they? that's strange isn't it? It's funny almost! do they have faith in them? why do they do it? weird! :2razz:
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Moot said:
Probably because they don't have access to sex education, contraception or abortions.
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I know ... a piece of plastic, a condom, should not be so difficult to get ... then what do I know here... nothing at all my dears!
 
Mya said:
yes ... well... sometime democracies seem to copy socialist and communist ideas ... don't they? that's strange isn't it? It's funny almost! do they have faith in them? why do they do it? weird! :2razz:
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The USA has had a "mixed" Economy as far back as when FDR became president. A mixed economy has qualities of free market and state having direct effect on the economy.
 
Moot said:
Tell that to Romney.

Well, you could have just read the link I provided and followed the sources at the bottom of the page. But that was probably too easy.
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Ummm... I did... the only mention of newt, was a book title

The link you put up said:
Carter, Dan T. From George Wallace to Newt Gingrich: Race in the Conservative Counterrevolution, 1963-1994.
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So please I ask, instead of inuendo... please give me proof... even your own link said the southern strategy is dead... and it is VERY biased... it forgets to mention the party of nearly every democrat ... but doesnt make the same mistake with republicans...

 
Moot said:
Probably because they don't have access to sex education, contraception or abortions.
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Huh.............. food stamps based upon income guidelines IIRC.
 
Connery said:
The USA has had a "mixed" Economy as far back as when FDR became president. A mixed economy has qualities of free market and state having direct effect on the economy.
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Umm ok.... but I thought there is no mix economy.

there is left or there is right.

there is communism or capitalism.


what it's going to be?

a mix bag? I am not so sure.
 
Mya said:
Umm ok.... but I thought there is no mix economy.

there is left or there is right.

there is communism or capitalism.


what it's going to be?

a mix bag? I am not so sure.
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I am very sure and it is based upon Keynesian economics. Moreover, the idea is that putting food stamps into the hands of recipients causes them to spend in the market place and therefore stimulates the economy.
 
Mya said:
Umm ok.... but I thought there is no mix economy.

there is left or there is right.

there is communism or capitalism.


what it's going to be?

a mix bag? I am not so sure.
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No economy in the world is completely one or the other... We have never had truely free markets, here or anywhere else in the world, ever...

Capitalism is usually tempered by a "Social Safety Net" that keeps the poor from being absolutely destitute... and it is a good thing... but as Ben Franklin said,

Benjamin Franklin said:
I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.”
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Provision must always be made for the sick and infirm, for the orphan, and for those unable to help themselves... but to provide a reasonably comfortable poverty, is the greatest crime one man can perpetrate on another, it robs them of their will to be better.
 
Connery said:
I am very sure and it is based upon Keynesian economics. Moreover, the idea is that putting food stamps into the hands of recipients causes them to spend in the market place and therefore stimulates the economy.
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ok...look...I'm all for people not starving.. whatever it takes.
 
Mya said:
ok...look...I'm all for people not starving.. whatever it takes.
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My motto is empanadas for everyone ...as long as they actually come to my door to enjoy them...:)
 
Schutzengel said:
Ummm... I did... the only mention of newt, was a book title



So please I ask, instead of inuendo... please give me proof... even your own link said the southern strategy is dead... and it is VERY biased... it forgets to mention the party of nearly every democrat ... but doesnt make the same mistake with republicans...

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The Democrat Party of the 1800 and 1900s wasn't the same Democrat Party as it is today. Once the was Civil Rights Act was passed in 1964, the Southern Democrats of the time jumped ship and went Republican.
 
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