View Poll Results: Is the US a benefit to the World?

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  • Yes, absolutely. The world will kill itself without us.

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  • Yes, I believe so. I think we do more good than harm.

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  • Not sure.

    8 13.33%
  • No, I don’t believe so. I think we do more harm than good.

    10 16.67%
  • No, absolutely not. The world will kill us if we don’t get out of its way.

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    Re: Is the United States a benefit to the World?

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    and Russia and Britain and Australia and Canada and the soldiers of the British empire etc etc etc

    To hear some people, you wonder whether anyone else was involved in either world war. I'm guessing that Japan and Germany also played minor roles somewhere along the line but really it was all down to the US - start to finish.
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    Re: Is the United States a benefit to the World?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    don't get your knickers in a twist...it was a joke (or did you miss the )

    There ya go annoying the public again oscar...you would make a great cop

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    Re: Is the United States a benefit to the World?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Ah, but the question is not whether the US was, but rather, is it still. In the past was the US a benefit to the world, without a doubt, is it still a benefit to the world and will it remain a benefit to the world, I have to stick with unsure.
    I'm definately not a fan of recent US foreign policy...so don't get me wrong. I'm not a rah rah under any circumstances our actions are fine.

    At the same time....I think Kosovo and Libya have shown that the "International Community" is a group of bumbling under funded militaries. They completely rely on US technology and logistics as well as for the US to do the heavy lifting. I think if the US was gone tomorrow...Tawain, South Korea, Israel, and other conflicts would take place all around the world. Russia would gobble up the countries that just recently gain independence. Countries like Iran that are bellicose would start taking over their neighbors. I think global security almost entirely hinges on the US.
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    Re: Is the United States a benefit to the World?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    There ya go annoying the public again oscar...you would make a great cop
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    Re: Is the United States a benefit to the World?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I already am a great cop
    heh...my man no wonder I like you

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    Re: Is the United States a benefit to the World?

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    Re: Is the United States a benefit to the World?

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I'm definately not a fan of recent US foreign policy...so don't get me wrong. I'm not a rah rah under any circumstances our actions are fine.

    At the same time....I think Kosovo and Libya have shown that the "International Community" is a group of bumbling under funded militaries. They completely rely on US technology and logistics as well as for the US to do the heavy lifting. I think if the US was gone tomorrow...Tawain, South Korea, Israel, and other conflicts would take place all around the world. Russia would gobble up the countries that just recently gain independence. Countries like Iran that are bellicose would start taking over their neighbors. I think global security almost entirely hinges on the US.
    I don't totally disagree with you, probably when I do, it is for different reasons than yours. But, Britain and the British Commonwealth nations I think would be more than capable of holding their own without us. Do they use our equipment and technology sometimes, sure, but hey, it's cheaper and sometimes better to use ours. Israel, biggest problem is it really has few resources, just too small without enough natural resources, they actually have developed some pretty decent domestic equipment. As to some of the others, I'm not so sure preventing them from going at each others throats is a benefit to the world. Recently, I totally agree with some of the things the US has tried to do, but the way we screwed the pooch in carring them out and whether or not it actually changed a damned thing makes one question whether we were a benefit or a hinderance. Taking out the regional counterbalance to Iran while leaving Iran alone really was not a benefit to ourselves or the region.

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    Re: Is the United States a benefit to the World?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    ask the europeans who would all be speaking german now if it were not for the US
    Ah, but the question is in the present tense because it begins with IS, not WAS. Ron Paul's message of liberty was rejected by the people who, in doing so, have F****D us and themselves. Also in doing so, have given the military industrial complex free reign to finish the job it started. Obama has done nothing for world peace and Romney has vowed to TRIPLE military spending. The military spending, by the way, is why we are in economic turmoil but let's triple it. WHY? To impose the will of NOT US, but a few billionaires who have become parasitic to the unwitting american public. They have already implemented their plan to rid the world of 80% of the population and americans are so dumb, they have and will continue to fund the entire thing!! So, to answer your question (if you mean the United States as an entity, not as a people), the United States is a disease to the world right now and I'm very disappointed that someone like me, who knows nothing about politics, has enough intuitive sense to see that this is happening, but the vast majority of americans do not.

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    Re: Is the United States a benefit to the World?

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    and Russia and Britain and Australia and Canada and the soldiers of the British empire etc etc etc

    To hear some people, you wonder whether anyone else was involved in either world war. I'm guessing that Japan and Germany also played minor roles somewhere along the line but really it was all down to the US - start to finish.
    In that war, Japan and Germany lost their worst people while we lost our best. Like the ancient Greeks after the Battle of Marathon, we've been going downhill ever since.
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    Re: Is the United States a benefit to the World?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    don't get your knickers in a twist...it was a joke (or did you miss the )
    I'll take the hit but you will find many people on your side of the pond think your joke is real historyt.

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