View Poll Results: The U.S. Government at the highest levels: Friends or Foes?

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    5 13.16%
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    21 55.26%
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    Re: The US Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie1 View Post
    I just heard a statistic the other day. Historically, past governments where the rights of the people in societies lower rungs/poor were ignored, or where they were not allowed to vote/influence their governments, those governments ended in revolution. That is a scary statistic, since the gap of rich to poor has been growing in America. What can we do to build up the middle class? What is working in some countries and not ours? Have we become so polarized politically, that we cannot figure out what will work and just do it?
    Not always, the US hasn't ended in Revolution, yet. We quit suppressing the rights of the lower rungs/poor 40+ years ago. We don't ingnore the either, we have a whole, pro-socialist political party whose current incarnation is build around the "rights" of them. That party is so concerned about those rights that they have, over the past 40 years, suppressed and screwed over the rights of everyone else. It was not the "lower rung" that revolted in 1776 and eventually kicked the British out of the US. Revolutions from ignoring the rights of the lower rungs only occur when that lower rung is large enough to actually revolt. Thanks to liberals, that is a growing concern now, the growth of that "rung" not it revolting, and it will remain revolting. In the US today, the threat of Revolution is much higher from other groups than the "lower rung", you know, the segments of society that liberals keep stealing from to provide for the "lower rung" and who's rights liberals keep trampling on. Quit reading Marx and Marxian sources and take a look at reality instead. It is not the "lower rung" of our society who continue to purchase assault style weapons and ammo at record or near record pace while espousing anti-government sentiments and it is not the "lower rung" that now has more weapons and ammuntion than the all the worlds militaries combined. If you want to continue with your watching the Proloteriate and waiting for the rise as Marx predicted, don't blame me when you get blindsided by a revolution from a different direction because you kept voting for Politicians who kept stealing more and more and screwing over everyone else to give to the Proloteriate.
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    Re: The US Government

    No surprises in this poll. Everbody seems to be voting for the lesser of evils. That speaks volumes. "None of the above" needs be in every ballot box Nationally and statewide. If you don't start cleaning out the crap, nothing happens.

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    Re: The US Government

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    No surprises in this poll. Everbody seems to be voting for the lesser of evils. That speaks volumes. "None of the above" needs be in every ballot box Nationally and statewide. If you don't start cleaning out the crap, nothing happens.
    Refusing to vote is the equivalent of "none of the above", though voting third party is a more effective form of voters protest. I've done it before, and I'm going to do it again in November.
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

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    Re: The US Government

    The government responds to pressure .... So far the pressure has mainly come from big money corporations, who are only interested in profit and pushing forward Capitalist ideology ... So .... the government responds accordingly.

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    "Refusing to vote is the equivalent of "none of the above", though voting third party is a more effective form of voters protest. I've done it before, and I'm going to do it again in November. "

    I disagree. Not voting doesn't compare to an actual vote that says "none of the above." For example Romney gets 19%, Obama gets 19% and "none of the above" gets 62%. End of discussion.

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    Re: The US Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    Refusing to vote is the equivalent of "none of the above", though voting third party is a more effective form of voters protest. I've done it before, and I'm going to do it again in November.
    I have to disagree, not voting is voting for your least desirable candidate, since the lack of you voting reduces the number of votes that candidate must have to win. Voting for a good candidate may be desirable, but if you don't at least vote for the greater of two evils, you are passively supporting the greater of two evils.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    I have to disagree, not voting is voting for your least desirable candidate, since the lack of you voting reduces the number of votes that candidate must have to win. Voting for a good candidate may be desirable, but if you don't at least vote for the greater of two evils, you are passively supporting the greater of two evils.
    Not really. By not voting, a person is passively voting for who is already going to get the most votes in their district.
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    Re: The US Government

    I likely won't vote, either. Voting for Ron Paul is also the equivalent of not voting.

    As far as the US government is concerned: corrupt to its core. Knock it down and rebuild. Repeat in another 200 years.
    “In politics, stupidity is not a handicap.” -Napoleon

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    Re: The US Government

    Quote Originally Posted by sKiTzo View Post
    Judging by it's actions (meaning what they DO, not what they SAY), do you believe the actions of the US government (the spending, the war-mongering, trampling the constitution, passing deceptive bills that erode checks and balances, increasing instances of non-accountability, trillions funneled to black projects, etc.) do you believe their actions show that they are for our greater good or are they to the contrary, benefitting only those at the top of the pyramid?
    I would say off the top of my head that it sort of looks like Faction is contending with Faction.

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    Re: The US Government

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    I likely won't vote, either. Voting for Ron Paul is also the equivalent of not voting.

    As far as the US government is concerned: corrupt to its core. Knock it down and rebuild. Repeat in another 200 years.
    Just vote 3rd party. We're being lied to about the numbers so who knows. If there's more of us than we've been led to believe and we all vote 3rd party... it's a better chance than no vote at all.

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