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If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody[W:56]

If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody rights?


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I just found out the following:

[In] the vast majority of states -- 31 -- men who father through rape are able to assert the same custody and visitation rights to their children that other fathers enjoy.

Raped, pregnant and ordeal not over - CNN.com
Now, I am thoroughly disgusted. I am disgusted because I don't think a woman should not be forced to interact with her rapist for the rest of her life. Moreover, I don't think a child should be, even partially, raised by someone so disgusting and who has an inherently toxic relationship with them and their mother.

Do you agree or disagree?
 
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Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

i would like to see a poll option "hell no"
 
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Absolutely not. If a woman becomes pregnant through rape, the fetus should be aborted, and the criminal thrown in prison for the majority of his life.
 
Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

Mr. Akins is gods gift to the Democrap party.

The Repugnantcans have some good things to offer. But they are de-legitimized by this moron mentality that keeps them chasing abortion rights instead of addressing the more important issues that affect everyone.
 
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No as he's already demonstrated violent and asocial behaviors that would inhibit him from acting in the child's best interests well before the birth of said child. Hard to believe this is both a regular legal practice and yet unbeknownst to so many.
 
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I just found out the following:


Now, I am thoroughly disgusted. I am disgusted because I don't think a woman should not be forced to interact with her rapist for the rest of her life. Moreover, I don't think a child should be, even partially, raised by someone so disgusting and who has an inherently toxic relationship with them and their mother.

Do you agree or disagree?

I couldn't agree more. I wish this were a moot point, as any rapist would be in prison longer than 18 years.
 
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I hit the wrong thing...I hit other, I was going to say if the mother wants him too...but I think ill change mine to NO
 
Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

He should be in prison with pretty much zero rights to anything.
 
Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

Beyond just the fact that he violated someone's rights by committing a heinous act which right there should grant him nothing it would be IMO psychological trauma for a rapist to have any right to still have contact with the person he violated. I can't fathom putting a woman through the extended trauma of having to release the child to the person responsible for it through no consent of hers. I agree TPD, it's disgusting.
 
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Wow, this is beyond sick.

Convicted rapists should spend their lives in prison. If for some reason that doesn't happen, they should certainly have no right to the child of the woman they raped. The woman doesn't deserve to be repeatedly traumatized for the rest of her life, and children shouldn't be left alone with psychopaths.
 
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Absolutely and unequivocally no freaking way.

Yet the woman in the article fought that for years. You would think it would be no-brainer.

I can imagine it would almost be impossible for a woman to fight a custody battle if she were date/acquaintance raped or if she didn't want the trauma of going to court.
 
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No, he shouldn't have any custody or visitation rights. It will almost certainly be damaging to the mother, but it may also impact the child when they are older and know that this man violated their mother. I think a rapist should be forced to pay child support but they deserve no custody or visitation rights. If anything they should be given restraining orders if they get out of jail.
 
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There's always the 18 year old male and the 17 year old female and vice versa. Statutory rape and is certainly a slippery slope or even a bundle of snakes. Lots of females raping their underage stucents recently. By both sexes. It goes without saying that they should put the older females in jail and give the kid to the minor male and never allow the female contact with said child. Neither one.
 
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I would file against the rapist asking for a permanent restrained order citing a "Best Interests of the Child" augment showing that the rapist father would cause sever and irreparable harm against the child. If that did not work I would take the child and move.
 
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Absolutely and unequivocally no freaking way.

Yet the woman in the article fought that for years. You would think it would be no-brainer.

I can imagine it would almost be impossible for a woman to fight a custody battle if she were date/acquaintance raped or if she didn't want the trauma of going to court.


May be traumatizing, but, nothing trumps keeping the child safe and away from the father.
 
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It's hard to believe even one state has such an absurd law, let along 31.
 
Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

May be traumatizing, but, nothing trumps keeping the child safe and away from the father.

I would have to agree with that Connery.

Especially a father who brutalized the mother. If he would do that, I don't think there is anyone who would be safe around him and the ends of the Earth would not be too far for me.
 
Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

No way in hell.
 
Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

Absolutely and unequivocally no freaking way.

Yet the woman in the article fought that for years. You would think it would be no-brainer.

I can imagine it would almost be impossible for a woman to fight a custody battle if she were date/acquaintance raped or if she didn't want the trauma of going to court.

What's really insane is that good fathers often have to fight tooth and nail just to get a couple weekends a month. But a rapist is entitled to it? Just blows me out of the water.
 
Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

There's always the 18 year old male and the 17 year old female and vice versa.
Hm, I hadn't thought of statutory rape in the context of a 18/17 year old couple or something similar. With that in mind, I think it would be best if rapists were not allowed any visitation or custody rights unless the mother petitions the court and judge accepts her reason for wanting the father to have rights.
 
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Hm, I hadn't thought of statutory rape in the context of a 18/17 year old couple or something similar. With that in mind, I think it would be best if rapists were not allowed any visitation or custody rights unless the mother petitions the court and judge accepts her reason for wanting the father to have rights.

Yeah, I would think a woman who had willing sex with a guy who just happens to be "illegal" due to age laws would be far more inclined. But I think it's insane that we classify that as rape to begin with (assuming there are no other factors in play). Decent people wind up on the sex offender list for having a partner who's a year or two younger than they are, or even for streaking in their young and crazy days.
 
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Yeah, I would think a woman who had willing sex with a guy who just happens to be "illegal" due to age laws would be far more inclined. But I think it's insane that we classify that as rape to begin with (assuming there are no other factors in play). Decent people wind up on the sex offender list for having a partner who's a year or two younger than they are, or even for streaking in their young and crazy days.
Yep, there are actually a couple cases of men who had sex with their 16/17 year old girlfriends when they were 18/19 who ended up being severely beaten up or killed by vigilantes who saw their names on a sex offender list. That alone was enough to convince me that sex offender classifications and registries need reform.
 
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I just found out the following:


Now, I am thoroughly disgusted. I am disgusted because I don't think a woman should not be forced to interact with her rapist for the rest of her life. Moreover, I don't think a child should be, even partially, raised by someone so disgusting and who has an inherently toxic relationship with them and their mother.

Do you agree or disagree?

The father should be barred from contacting the mother or child for life.
 
Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

Yeah, I would think a woman who had willing sex with a guy who just happens to be "illegal" due to age laws would be far more inclined. But I think it's insane that we classify that as rape to begin with (assuming there are no other factors in play). Decent people wind up on the sex offender list for having a partner who's a year or two younger than they are, or even for streaking in their young and crazy days.
Statutory is such a technicality, while I agree to an extent that it's there to protect younger people from predators it can be misused. The whole concept of it is based upon the age being not one where a person has the "ability to consent", to me that's a gray area. Forcible and drug rape are definitely a no to parental rights.
 
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Statutory is such a technicality, while I agree to an extent that it's there to protect younger people from predators it can be misused. The whole concept of it is based upon the age being not one where a person has the "ability to consent", to me that's a gray area. Forcible and drug rape are definitely a no to parental rights.

I'm in favor of situational "common sense" statutory laws. This is one area where the law can't afford to be a big, dumb hammer. Putting someone on a sex offender list is not a joke, and someone shouldn't be condemned to that for dating a sophomore when they were a senior. That's ridiculous.

Although personally, I don't think we should need sex offender registries, because I don't think rapists should ever see the light of day again. But that's just me.
 
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