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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Sometimes, it's just a matter of taking the lemons life has handed you and making sweet lemonade. It's not like most rape victims knew their attackers well enough-- and intimately enough-- that everything their child does is going to remind them of that thing that happened that one time. And I obviously don't know this from experience, but seems to me that most women have a hard time hating someone they spent nine months carrying inside them.

    I agree vik that the mothers wont hate thier babies...but they will always remember how the baby was concieved and lets not forget that one day they may have to sit down and tell their child who their father was...they will certainly be asked eventually..

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I agree vik that the mothers wont hate thier babies...but they will always remember how the baby was concieved and lets not forget that one day they may have to sit down and tell their child who their father was...they will certainly be asked eventually..
    And you reckon the pain of having to learn that fact is so intense that it's better not to have lived at all?

    That's one painful, awkward conversation weighed against a whole lifetime.

    I'm not saying it's wrong for rape victims to abort. I'm only saying that there's nothing wrong with them choosing not to and that it is ridiculous and hurtful to say that there is.

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    And you reckon the pain of having to learn that fact is so intense that it's better not to have lived at all?

    That's one painful, awkward conversation weighed against a whole lifetime.

    I'm not saying it's wrong for rape victims to abort. I'm only saying that there's nothing wrong with them choosing not to and that it is ridiculous and hurtful to say that there is.
    Wait we have some confusion here...I wasnt saying a woman should abort just because she is raped...thats her decision to make..I was speaking in general that once a woman decides to have the child she cant forget how it was concieved, how could she ? and that eventually she may have to confront it and explain that to the child....I wasnt thinking abortion in my post viktyr

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    So many of our laws need to be updated. I'm sure this must be like a loophole, only because the "rapist" is considered the child's legal father, but somebody needs to fix that mistake. Could you imagine having to let your child go with the person who raped you? OMG, I would probably end up being arrested.

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    I would like to point out that just because someone gets convicted of a crime that does not necessarily mean that they really committed a crime.

    After all, there are cases in which people accuse someone of rape who didn't actually do it, such as the Duke University lacrosse team case.

    Duke lacrosse case - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Or the case of Brian Banks, a high school football player who was an NFL hopeful who spent 5 years in jail because a young woman filed false charges of sexual assault against him.

    Ex-football player, wrongly jailed for rape, wants money from state - latimes.com

    So whenever we talk about crimes and the penalties for being convicted of one, we always have to keep in mind that maybe someone charged with the crime didn't actually do it.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody[W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I just found out the following:


    Now, I am thoroughly disgusted. I am disgusted because I don't think a woman should not be forced to interact with her rapist for the rest of her life. Moreover, I don't think a child should be, even partially, raised by someone so disgusting and who has an inherently toxic relationship with them and their mother.

    Do you agree or disagree?
    Death penalty for rape ftw

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody[W:56]

    I don't think someone should get the DP for rape. I DO think their sentences should be much longer than they are though. Did you know that people serve more time for drug convictions than for rape and pedophilia? Our justice system is screwy.

    Edit: Sometimes, that is, unless you're a rich and famous celebrity.

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody[W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I just found out the following:


    Now, I am thoroughly disgusted. I am disgusted because I don't think a woman should not be forced to interact with her rapist for the rest of her life. Moreover, I don't think a child should be, even partially, raised by someone so disgusting and who has an inherently toxic relationship with them and their mother.

    Do you agree or disagree?
    Surely, the mother can argue that the father is unfit for visitation rights. But the idea of allowing the rapist to use the parental rights as a bargain for the women to drop legal charges for the rape is just astounding.
    Quote Originally Posted by Free_Radical View Post

    And I wasn't making an appeal to authority, I was making an appeal to the philosophical body of work of the founders, the worth and content of which should be well-known to anyone with a cursory understanding of basic history and philosophy.

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I would like to point out that just because someone gets convicted of a crime that does not necessarily mean that they really committed a crime.

    After all, there are cases in which people accuse someone of rape who didn't actually do it, such as the Duke University lacrosse team case.

    Duke lacrosse case - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Or the case of Brian Banks, a high school football player who was an NFL hopeful who spent 5 years in jail because a young woman filed false charges of sexual assault against him.

    Ex-football player, wrongly jailed for rape, wants money from state - latimes.com

    So whenever we talk about crimes and the penalties for being convicted of one, we always have to keep in mind that maybe someone charged with the crime didn't actually do it.

    Which is besides the point. If that someone didn't commit the crime, then the punishment should not be lower but none, therefore in considering the punishment, we ought to consider what is fitting for the crime, not for the those who are wrongly convicted.
    Quote Originally Posted by Free_Radical View Post

    And I wasn't making an appeal to authority, I was making an appeal to the philosophical body of work of the founders, the worth and content of which should be well-known to anyone with a cursory understanding of basic history and philosophy.

    Brian

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Who chose yes?

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