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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Hm, I hadn't thought of statutory rape in the context of a 18/17 year old couple or something similar. With that in mind, I think it would be best if rapists were not allowed any visitation or custody rights unless the mother petitions the court and judge accepts her reason for wanting the father to have rights.
    Yeah, I would think a woman who had willing sex with a guy who just happens to be "illegal" due to age laws would be far more inclined. But I think it's insane that we classify that as rape to begin with (assuming there are no other factors in play). Decent people wind up on the sex offender list for having a partner who's a year or two younger than they are, or even for streaking in their young and crazy days.

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Yeah, I would think a woman who had willing sex with a guy who just happens to be "illegal" due to age laws would be far more inclined. But I think it's insane that we classify that as rape to begin with (assuming there are no other factors in play). Decent people wind up on the sex offender list for having a partner who's a year or two younger than they are, or even for streaking in their young and crazy days.
    Yep, there are actually a couple cases of men who had sex with their 16/17 year old girlfriends when they were 18/19 who ended up being severely beaten up or killed by vigilantes who saw their names on a sex offender list. That alone was enough to convince me that sex offender classifications and registries need reform.

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I just found out the following:


    Now, I am thoroughly disgusted. I am disgusted because I don't think a woman should not be forced to interact with her rapist for the rest of her life. Moreover, I don't think a child should be, even partially, raised by someone so disgusting and who has an inherently toxic relationship with them and their mother.

    Do you agree or disagree?
    The father should be barred from contacting the mother or child for life.

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Yeah, I would think a woman who had willing sex with a guy who just happens to be "illegal" due to age laws would be far more inclined. But I think it's insane that we classify that as rape to begin with (assuming there are no other factors in play). Decent people wind up on the sex offender list for having a partner who's a year or two younger than they are, or even for streaking in their young and crazy days.
    Statutory is such a technicality, while I agree to an extent that it's there to protect younger people from predators it can be misused. The whole concept of it is based upon the age being not one where a person has the "ability to consent", to me that's a gray area. Forcible and drug rape are definitely a no to parental rights.
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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Statutory is such a technicality, while I agree to an extent that it's there to protect younger people from predators it can be misused. The whole concept of it is based upon the age being not one where a person has the "ability to consent", to me that's a gray area. Forcible and drug rape are definitely a no to parental rights.
    I'm in favor of situational "common sense" statutory laws. This is one area where the law can't afford to be a big, dumb hammer. Putting someone on a sex offender list is not a joke, and someone shouldn't be condemned to that for dating a sophomore when they were a senior. That's ridiculous.

    Although personally, I don't think we should need sex offender registries, because I don't think rapists should ever see the light of day again. But that's just me.

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Why is this even a discussion? Women who are raped more than anybody else should have the right to get rid of that disgusting memory leaching their emotional and physical health.
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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    What's really insane is that good fathers often have to fight tooth and nail just to get a couple weekends a month. But a rapist is entitled to it? Just blows me out of the water.
    I know. It boggles the mind Smoke. In both situations, gross inequities do happen when it's demonstrably in the interest of the child protect them from a bad or dangerous parent. In the instance of a rape, they shouldn't even be able to file suit.
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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    I'm in favor of situational "common sense" statutory laws. This is one area where the law can't afford to be a big, dumb hammer. Putting someone on a sex offender list is not a joke, and someone shouldn't be condemned to that for dating a sophomore when they were a senior. That's ridiculous.

    Although personally, I don't think we should need sex offender registries, because I don't think rapists should ever see the light of day again. But that's just me.
    That's pretty close to my position.
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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    i would like to see a poll option "hell no"
    it should be more like AWWWW... HELL NO !!!!!!
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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    though I have to ask, does the 17 year old boy & 15 year old girl who get caught by mom and dad, and then they hang the boy out to dry ... does that follow the same guidelines? in that case I might say maybe.

    but any rape where there is violence in any sense of the word (mental, emotional, physical) then I stand by AWWWW.... HELL NO !!!! for the sake of both the mother and the child.
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