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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It is impossible to be a father via rape. Being a father ain't about sperm cells.
    There's some truth to that. Biologically sure the father is the person who impregnated the female, but a real father is the man who steps up, sets a good direction for a child, and puts that child's welfare first and foremost.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    So, if some guy raped your daughter, and she decided to have the child, you would be okay with her attacker having custodial rights to this child?
    It shouldn't be up to me and it shouldn't be up to the state. Neither of us have any cards in the game.

    Would I be fine with it? No, but my opinion means nothing.

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    It shouldn't be up to me and it shouldn't be up to the state. Neither of us have any cards in the game.

    Would I be fine with it? No, but my opinion means nothing.
    It does too, if it is your family. This is what the family has to go through because of legislation like this. It is totally relevant.

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    If you're the one concerned that she is lying, I think the onus lies on you to put your own mind at rest. Do you have any evidence that she is lying? Her story of being raped isn't unusual or unbelievable. He was convicted of raping this woman in court, so what's your problem?
    No. You are simply lying. According to her, he was NOT convicted of raping her.

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    No. You are simply lying. According to her, he was NOT convicted of raping her.
    Yes, that's right. I go around lying because I am an evil, evil woman. Mwa-ha-ha!

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Should a man who fathers a child through rape have visitation custody?

    My first impulse is to say no.

    But then, there are other variables to this issue, for example, what if the man paid his dues to society and to the woman? what if he honesty repented? what if he truly turned his life around and he is sincerely remorseful?

    In other words, shall he not be forgiven and be offered a second chance to start anew in life?

    These are all complex questions that must be addressed in my opinion.

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    Should a man who fathers a child through rape have visitation custody?

    My first impulse is to say no.

    But then, there are other variables to this issue, for example, what if the man paid his dues to society and to the woman? what if he honesty repented? what if he truly turned his life around and he is sincerely remorseful?

    In other words, shall he not be forgiven and be offered a second chance to start anew in life?

    These are all complex questions that must be addressed in my opinion.
    I think that should be left up to mom since she was the victim of a crime, which just happened to result in a pregnancy and a child. Even if he has repented, I don't see how he can be forced upon the mom/victim of his crime. But I totally understand your sentiment, and that would be a bad outcome because of the decision he made to commit the crime of rape. IMO, another consequence HE should have to deal with, not mom.

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I think that should be left up to mom since she was the victim of a crime, which just happened to result in a pregnancy and a child. Even if he has repented, I don't see how he can be forced upon the mom/victim of his crime. But I totally understand your sentiment, and that would be a bad outcome because of the decision he made to commit the crime of rape. IMO, another consequence HE should have to deal with, not mom.

    I understand what you are saying.

    But I am not suggesting that the victim be forced to do anything at all.

    I am only asking these questions ... these complex moral questions. This is not an open and shut case, and there are moral issues that have to be considered.

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    I understand what you are saying.

    But I am not suggesting that the victim be forced to do anything at all.

    I am only asking these questions ... these complex moral questions. This is not an open and shut case, and there are moral issues that have to be considered.
    Unfortunately, there are never easy answers.

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody[W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    If it was forcible rape, then I have to disagree. He impregnated a woman against her will and attacked her. In this situation, it should be left to the mother's discretion.
    You realize that in family law the court can and does step in to protect the rights of the children from arbitrary and capricious wishes of the parents? If the father is truely criminally violent then the court would likely side with the mother, but that he's criminally violent would have to be established as fact.

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