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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody[W:56]

    Now, I am thoroughly disgusted. I am disgusted because I don't think a woman should not be forced to interact with her rapist for the rest of her life.
    How about statutory rape? Or are you of the opinion that "rape is rape"?

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody[W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    How about statutory rape? Or are you of the opinion that "rape is rape"?
    Statutory rape is completely different in regards this question, in my opinion.
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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Not just no but hell no...........I believe if a man rapes a woman he should be executed.............
    There's a huge problem with this line of thinking.

    Numerous times there have been men who were wrongly accused of rape. I don't think I need to continue for you get where I'm going with that.
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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody[W:56]

    if a man fathers a child through rape he should be castrated.
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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    Be skeptical if you wish. You present no evidence to me that she is lying, so I will take her at her word in the absence of proof.
    As I've already pointed out, this was a he said/she said case and he was not convicted.

    Could you explain why are you so quick to take her word over his word?

    Does he have any credibility issues that you know of? Or what?
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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody[W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    if a man fathers a child through rape he should be castrated.
    I could live with that

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody[W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    How about statutory rape? Or are you of the opinion that "rape is rape"?
    Someone mentioned that earlier in the thread and it was something I hadn't considered when writing the OP. I think that the legal default in all states should be that rapists don't have any rights regarding their children, but that the woman can petition the courts to let the father have rights which she would do in cases of statutory rape, particularly if the it's an 19/16 year old dating type situation.

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody[W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    if a man fathers a child through rape he should be castrated.
    Meh, bring back hard labor, and prison work programs. Force them to actually do something for society, instead of taking from it. Of course, with the general feelings prisoners have toward sex offenders, and all that heavy equipment...
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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

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    Although I personally don't agree with the DP, that is a separate trial. I believe the defendant is tried for guilt first, and the death penalty trial is a separate trial. I could be wrong in that it could vary from state to state which have the DP. Where the DP is legal though, it kind of doesn't make sense to have people on the jury who do not believe in it.
    No, there's one trial.

    What happens, though, is that the jurors who decide guilt can then recommend sentencing. That includes the death penalty.

    And studies have shown that people who favor the death penalty are many more times likely to decide an accused person guilty than not.

    Therefore, death penalty juries are inherently likely to decide that an accused person is guilty anyways. Which is wrong consider the finality of the death sentence.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post

    No, there's one trial.

    What happens, though, is that the jurors who decide guilt can then recommend sentencing. That includes the death penalty.

    And studies have shown that people who favor the death penalty are many more times likely to decide an accused person guilty than not.

    Therefore, death penalty juries are inherently likely to decide that an accused person is guilty anyways. Which is wrong consider the finality of the death sentence.
    Well, I found this which states there are two separate trials. I don't know about juror recommendations.


    What makes a death penalty case different from other criminal cases? - Death Penalty - ProCon.org
    Richard C. Dieter, MS, JD, Executive Director of the Death Penalty Information Center, in Feb. 7, 2007 testimony to the Judiciary Committee of the Colorado State House of Representatives regarding "House Bill 1094 - Costs of the Death Penalty and Related Issues," stated:
    "Everything that is needed for an ordinary trial is needed for a death penalty case, only more so:
    • More pre-trial time will be needed to prepare: cases typically take a year to come to trial more pre-trial motions will be filed and answered.
    • More experts will be hired.
    • Twice as many attorneys will be appointed for the defense, and a comparable team for the prosecution.
    • Jurors will have to be individually quizzed on their views about the death penalty, and they are more likely to be sequestered.
    Two trials instead of one will be conducted: one for guilt and one for punishment.
    • The trial will be longer: a cost study at Duke University (752KB) estimated that death penalty trials take 3 to 5 times longer than typical murder trials
    • And then will come a series of appeals during which the inmates are held in the high security of death row."

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