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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    I would file against the rapist asking for a permanent restrained order citing a "Best Interests of the Child" augment showing that the rapist father would cause sever and irreparable harm against the child. If that did not work I would take the child and move.
    And be charged with kidnapping? So now she's the criminal, that's a good place to argue "best interest of the child".
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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    And be charged with kidnapping? So now she's the criminal, that's a good place to argue "best interest of the child".
    What other choice would she (the victim) have? The government already mandated that she has to share her time with the depraved monster that brutally sodomized and raped her due to some twisted political ideology. Some parts of this country won't even allow her to destroy the product of the brutal and vicious attack, because it's against the personal misogynistic ideologies of some twisted assholes who live in fantasy land.
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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    And be charged with kidnapping? So now she's the criminal, that's a good place to argue "best interest of the child".
    Kindly define kidnapping for me.

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    Kindly define kidnapping for me.

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    What Constitutes Parental Kidnapping? - Attorneys.com

    Parental kidnapping or parental abduction is defined as the concealment, taking, or retention of a child by his parent in violation of the rights of the child's other parent or another family member. Violated rights may include, for example, custody and visitation rights. Sadly, thousands of children are abducted by a parent and removed from the United States annually. Even more children are kidnapped by a parent within the confines of U.S. borders. Parental kidnapping also happens when a child is abducted from a custodial parent abroad and transported into the United States by the non-custodial parent illegally.
    More Than Just a Custody Dispute

    Make no mistake – parental kidnapping is illegal. Parental kidnapping is far more than a dispute regarding custody matters between divorcing parents. Such matters are relegated to the civil courts; however, parental kidnapping is a criminal act. In fact, parental kidnapping violates the laws of all U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and the Virgin Islands, plus U.S. federal laws and international laws. It is dangerous and can be deadly.

    Parentally-abducted children live a life on the run as if fugitives. It is not uncommon to see a child receive a new name, nickname, haircut, dyed hair, glasses, or otherwise altered appearance. Children may be coached not to reveal their true names, birth dates, home states and addresses, and other identifying information. They may move often to avoid detection and recovery. School performance and social relationships suffer materially (that is, if the child is permitted to attend school). Even medical treatment may suffer because of requirements for identifying information involved in the registration for care and insurance claims processing.


    Parental Kidnapping Law & Legal Definition

    In the absence of a court order determining rights of custody or visitation to a child, a person having a right of custody of the child commits the crime of parental kidnapping if he removes, takes, detains, conceals, or entices away that child within or without the state, without good cause, and with the intent to deprive the custody right of another person or a public agency also having a custody right to that child. The following a a federal law governing parental kidnapping:



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    Quote Originally Posted by Free_Radical View Post

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    What other choice would she (the victim) have? The government already mandated that she has to share her time with the depraved monster that brutally sodomized and raped her due to some twisted political ideology. Some parts of this country won't even allow her to destroy the product of the brutal and vicious attack, because it's against the personal misogynistic ideologies of some twisted assholes who live in fantasy land.
    Stay and fight. Deal if she has too. Fight to change the law later so others will have a better chance. Running and living in fear is not a good environment for children to grow up either.
    Quote Originally Posted by Free_Radical View Post

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
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    Since I am ready lay my life down for my son, I would have no problem with "kidnapping" the child in order to keep him safe from a the predatory, sick bastard who committed the rape which carries a level of physical and emotional violence that is rarely comparable to other types crimes in my view.






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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Do the rights of a criminal supercede those of the innocent ?
    Is a man , after having committed the crime, a permanent criminal ?
    These are toughies, a panel of victims should decide ??
    What would Jesus do or say ?

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Do the rights of a criminal supercede those of the innocent ?
    Is a man , after having committed the crime, a permanent criminal ?
    These are toughies, a panel of victims should decide ??
    What would Jesus do or say ?
    Who the heck knows? I hate it when people say that. "What would Jesus do?" I don't know and neither do you. Although I think it's safe to say that he wouldn't want children being in the company of the rapists of their mothers. And YES, the rights of the victim in this situation DEFINITELY supercede those of the attacker.

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    Here they are:

    Seriously, Google people.
    Hey I know that crime, it's what I'll be charging my X with after the divorce

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    Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody[W:56]

    If Jesus has something to say then he can come here and say it himself.

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