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  • Obama Will Win

    32 50.79%
  • Romny will Win

    15 23.81%
  • I dont know

    11 17.46%
  • The Debates will tell the tale

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    Re: Who do you believe will win in Nov

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Seems ryan has given romney a boost. See cpwill I can admit it I just read Romney took the lead in Ohio, Fla and Wisconsin all big swing states in a quinnipiac poll which seem to be fair minded pollsters.

    Quinnipiac: Obama Leading in Florida, Ohio, Wisconsin

    There is also the a famously accurate poll model that predicts Presidential winners having romny as winning in nov...using thier model they have been 100% accurate since 1980 in predicting the winner.

    Analysis of election factors points to Romney win, University of Colorado study says | University of Colorado Boulder

    Do you believe Obama or Romney will win in Nov....I still believe the debates can turn the tide and firmly place the winner, however, going into the debates Romny/Ryan have a clear edge.
    Obama will win.Romney is not much of a contrast to Obama, so real conservatives will vote 3rd party or not vote for president at all.The green with envy crowd won't vote for a republican regardless of how rich democrats are and regardless how liberal the republican is.Only die hard republican party-tards are voting for Romney and while democrat party-tards and other idiots are voting for Obama.
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    Re: Who do you believe will win in Nov

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    They are just not us. They are them and we are us. That is how it is. They are the citizens that rule over everyone else while we are the ones being ruled. I don't think you can actually get around that. I have seen plenty tell me, but we elect them, but that means nothing to my fact that I presented. All it means is we have input on who rules us, but it doesn't even explore the amount of input that gives or the amount of choices it provides nor does it actually even face the reality that they are still ruling over everyone else. Its basically like saying if you are hired onto a company and you get a vote on who the ceo is that you are the ceo. It makes no sense. Obviously you are not the CEO and obviously he has the power to run the company and has your job in his hands. All dreams and fairytales aside that is how it is. I do see how that is libertarian belief, but I surely see how that is basic reality that is inescapable.

    Anyway, this whole idea of making them scared of us is built on a false premise pretty much. Its assuming we have the power to make them scared or threaten them and that we hold more might over them at any point in time. The fact is they could wipe us off the planet whenever they felt like it and we gave them that power long ago and did so over and over again throughout centuries of time. You want to deny these facts, go right ahead, but the military might says otherwise. It would be wonderful if they were scared of us, but that doesn't happen all that often and its not happening now.
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    Re: Who do you believe will win in Nov

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I disagree, I think Romney is going to have several moments in the debates where he contradicts himself, and Obama will pounce.
    I think that Romney went through a brutal primary, whereas Obama has been relatively coasting for the last 3.5 years. If Romney was at the point where he was going to contradict himself in such a way as to wreck his candidacy in a debate, he would have done it against Gingrich, who, for all his problems, is indeed a better debater than either Obama or Romney.

    And I believe you are underestimating Biden, that debate will be closer than you think.
    We shall see, but I think you are hoping Biden pulls out something he just doesn't have. The moderator is a foreign affairs correspondent - and for all that folks think "oh that's where Biden has experience"... it's where he has alot of experience making particularly boneheaded screwups. No one questions whether or not Ryan is smart enough to be President, that is a real concern with Biden. Watch for Ryan to slam that home.

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    Re: Who do you believe will win in Nov

    I must be one of the few people that isn't worried about either one winning. Obama doesn't do much of anything except talk, so no problem there. And everything Romney seems to do he excels at. He's very qualified to run this country by any measurable standard.
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    Re: Who do you believe will win in Nov

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I think that Romney went through a brutal primary, whereas Obama has been relatively coasting for the last 3.5 years. If Romney was at the point where he was going to contradict himself in such a way as to wreck his candidacy in a debate, he would have done it against Gingrich, who, for all his problems, is indeed a better debater than either Obama or Romney.

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    We shall see, but I think you are hoping Biden pulls out something he just doesn't have. The moderator is a foreign affairs correspondent - and for all that folks think "oh that's where Biden has experience"... it's where he has alot of experience making particularly boneheaded screwups. No one questions whether or not Ryan is smart enough to be President, that is a real concern with Biden. Watch for Ryan to slam that home.

    I think your taking her statement out of context...I think shes inferring that Romny is going to be asked direct questions that he has never been willing to answer...and hes going to either stumble and bumble or answer the question he so fears to answer...
    I also think your worship of everything Paul Ryan is way out of proportion to what hes earned

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    Re: Who do you believe will win in Nov

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I think that Romney went through a brutal primary, whereas Obama has been relatively coasting for the last 3.5 years.
    That line is funnier than Henny Youngman saying "take my wife..... please".
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    Re: Who do you believe will win in Nov

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    That line is funnier than Henny Youngman saying "take my wife..... please".
    Oh man did that slap an old memory back into my head...Henny Youngman..wow he was hilarious...My father used to roar with laughter watching his routine...god bless both their souls...

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    Re: Who do you believe will win in Nov

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    That line is funnier than Henny Youngman saying "take my wife..... please".
    When it comes to taking on verbal challenges in an open and public forum he's had two that I can think of - when he had the "healthcare working group" and when he went to go speak to the Republican retreat. In both instances Paul Ryan publicly made him look foolish. Obama just isn't the orator that the breathless media told us he was in 2008. He's good. But he's not that good. Orators who are that good are actually - you know - able to convince people of things.

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    Re: Who do you believe will win in Nov

    I think Obama will win, but it's a long way from over. I kind of thought I should have marked two of the possible answers.

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    Re: Who do you believe will win in Nov

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I think your taking her statement out of context...I think shes inferring that Romny is going to be asked direct questions that he has never been willing to answer...and hes going to either stumble and bumble or answer the question he so fears to answer...
    No, I understood. I am saying that Romney has spent the last two years having people try to do precisely that to him; and went through a series of primary debates where not only the moderators but multiple opponents tried to do the same. She is betting on a single event that is unlikely to happen.

    I also think your worship of everything Paul Ryan is way out of proportion to what hes earned
    Worship? No. But I - like many Democrats - greatly respect the man for what he has done, and I think Joe Biden reminds me of the kind of guy who insists on sitting next to you in the train so he can tell you about the squirrels in his lawn.

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