View Poll Results: Who will win in Nov

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  • Obama Will Win

    32 50.79%
  • Romny will Win

    15 23.81%
  • I dont know

    11 17.46%
  • The Debates will tell the tale

    5 7.94%
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Thread: Who do you believe will win in Nov

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    Re: Who do you believe will win in Nov

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I voted that I think Obama will win. But he'll have to do it knowing that I'll be voting for Romney. I actually think it's going to be a horse race. I'm eagerly awaiting the October surprises.
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    Is the "October surprise" even a real thing? I've been hearing about these October surprises for years now, but either nothing happens or it's the same old crap that happens throughout the rest of the year...it just happens in October.

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    Re: Who do you believe will win in Nov

    Anyway, I think Obama will win, but of course it'll be razor thin as usual. We'll vote for Obama because he practices at least some progressive beliefs (although certainly not very effectively). And Republicans will vote for Romney because their hatred for Obama is so great they don't even care that their own candidate isn't even a real person.

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    Re: Who do you believe will win in Nov

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    They are just not us. They are them and we are us. That is how it is. They are the citizens that rule over everyone else while we are the ones being ruled. I don't think you can actually get around that. I have seen plenty tell me, but we elect them, but that means nothing to my fact that I presented. All it means is we have input on who rules us, but it doesn't even explore the amount of input that gives or the amount of choices it provides nor does it actually even face the reality that they are still ruling over everyone else. Its basically like saying if you are hired onto a company and you get a vote on who the ceo is that you are the ceo. It makes no sense. Obviously you are not the CEO and obviously he has the power to run the company and has your job in his hands. All dreams and fairytales aside that is how it is. I do see how that is libertarian belief, but I surely see how that is basic reality that is inescapable.

    Anyway, this whole idea of making them scared of us is built on a false premise pretty much. Its assuming we have the power to make them scared or threaten them and that we hold more might over them at any point in time. The fact is they could wipe us off the planet whenever they felt like it and we gave them that power long ago and did so over and over again throughout centuries of time. You want to deny these facts, go right ahead, but the military might says otherwise. It would be wonderful if they were scared of us, but that doesn't happen all that often and its not happening now.
    If there was one single reason why Reagan was so popular, it was because he was more of one of us then one of them. Listening to his speeches, he always had that presence. I work for the American citizens, they are my boss and I represent them. A government as a whole should not have to physically fear its people, but I would at least hope that more elected officials fear losing their jobs if they stop working for the people. Too many are in for too long, not that I favor term limits. I actually do not. I feel that if there is a represetative that does a great job for their community and is well liked, they should go on serving. The term limits should be based on job performance.

    Now, holy hell, these guys are running for office and while campaigning are only being slaves to the wealthy puppet masters. Or to the party or to anyone who has dirt on them and will expose it. We have lost our way here in politics, but we can quickly get it back by expecting more from our politicians and voting them out based on results. By doing so, politicians would be more likely to do a better job knowing that simply running a slick campaign isn't going to be enough, or to raise a gazillion dollars to outspend the opponent. It is the job in office that will get them re-elected. And proving themselves legitimately on the way up as well.

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