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Have You Ever Signed a Petition?

Have You Ever Signed a Petition?

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We have state liquor stores here. You can buy beer and wine from any licensed retailer, but liquor is limited to state run stores and there are usually only one or two in a medium sized town. The prices are incredible and the selection is not even close to what you can find at a corner store in most other states.

We've petitioned over and again to allow it to be sold in any licensed store, like Costco.
 
Gina said:
We have state liquor stores here. You can buy beer and wine from any licensed retailer, but liquor is limited to state run stores and there are usually only one or two in a medium sized town. The prices are incredible and the selection is not even close to what you can find at a corner store in most other states.

We've petitioned over and again to allow it to be sold in any licensed store, like Costco.
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I've always looked at distilled spirits and beer/wine differently since one is "natural" and the other isn't but I didn't realize there were states that thought that way, too. Interesting.

Being an alcoholic (the type that never needs to start but can't stop past #3 or 4) I can see both sides of that issue. Have you done studies on, for example, teenage alcohol consumption to see if it actually helps control illegal use? Or alcoholism in general, maybe?
 
MoSurveyor said:
I've always looked at distilled spirits and beer/wine differently since one is "natural" and the other isn't but I didn't realize there were states that thought that way, too. Interesting.

Being an alcoholic (the type that never needs to start but can't stop past #3 or 4) I can see both sides of that issue. Have you done studies on, for example, teenage alcohol consumption to see if it actually helps control illegal use? Or alcoholism in general, maybe?
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I understand where I think you are going with that. No I have not done or researched studies on those two subjects, so I have no idea if controlling liquor sales helps control illegal use or helps with the rate of alcoholism.
 
MoSurveyor said:
I'd like to see Firefly again, too, but there are some other things I think are more important in life.

If it was a two-way stop (not 4-way) previously there are good reasons for being reluctant to put in a signal as they have their own problems. It could also be that it was on a back-logged list to be done and the accident moved it up on the list. Still, I dislike it when it takes a terrible accident to provoke an actual response.
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Where I live in NJ there are no 4 way stops. And the response time was lenghty until a person died. It was installed quickly after the tragedy. But maybe you are right and it was on the agenda.
 
Carleen said:
Where I live in NJ there are no 4 way stops. And the response time was lenghty until a person died. It was installed quickly after the tragedy. But maybe you are right and it was on the agenda.
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I didn't know that. So it was a 2-way where cross-traffic didn't stop? Then I can see why they would be reluctant depending on the traffic numbers. Statistically, signals can reduce side impacts, which I presume was the accident that resulted in a fatality, but signals also cause more rear-end collisions as people decide to stop - or not - at the signal. I'm sure you've seen people in this predicament. They see the light and there, at some magic point for them, the signal changes. Some people barrel through the yellow. Others slam on the brakes. It's about 50/50 and the driver following never knows how the other driver will react - if he's thinking about it at all. He may also be too close to the leader, which also results in a rear-ender if the leader stops. It's never quite as easy a decision as the public believes it to be, especially when the numbers are close.


I've seen such lists for more than just traffic signals. Capital improvements like that aren't just a one day job, they take time and money - and a little planning if they're going to meet national standards.
 
i signed a petition for a ballot initiative that would have kept one of our town elementary schools open after our governor slashed education. it made the ballot, and then failed.

i also signed a petition to help a veteran get on the ballot to run for governor. i didn't agree with any of his positions, but i figured if he put his ass on the line for the country, he had more than earned my signature. he didn't make the ballot, though.
 
digsbe said:
It's exactly as the title says, have you ever signed a petition? If so, what petition did you sign and what was the outcome? I recently signed my first petition and I was wondering how many members of DP have also done so or believe that they are valuable and can enact changes.
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Get money out, GMO labeling, Dislcose act.
 
"I support and oppose many things, but not strongly enough to pick up a pen." - Bender Bending Rodriguez
 
No I don't, because as I learn my opinions grow and often change.
 
I signed a petition requesting that the Health Minister work to increase the donor rates. Not sure of outcome as it was recently.
 
Gina said:
We have state liquor stores here. You can buy beer and wine from any licensed retailer, but liquor is limited to state run stores and there are usually only one or two in a medium sized town. The prices are incredible and the selection is not even close to what you can find at a corner store in most other states.

We've petitioned over and again to allow it to be sold in any licensed store, like Costco.
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And I thought our liquor laws were ridiculous...
 
Peddling booze does vary a lot across the country.

PA has separate beer/wine and then hard liquor stores. North Mexico has a modest selection of hard liquor in gas stations. Oklahoma has 3.2 'over the counter' beer- 6 point beer, wine and hard liquor all in one 'ABC' store.

Texas is funny, sell it all any in grocery stores but all the way down to the town level can vote to be dry.

Took quite a drive to get Burkburnett Texas 'wet'. Even though the entire county was wet, the Church Leaders predicted Sodom on the Red River if the tiny town opened a liquor store. Still waiting for the first sign of pillars of salt.
 
I signed one against drilling and fracking in our community.
 
notquiteright said:
Peddling booze does vary a lot across the country.

PA has separate beer/wine and then hard liquor stores. North Mexico has a modest selection of hard liquor in gas stations. Oklahoma has 3.2 'over the counter' beer- 6 point beer, wine and hard liquor all in one 'ABC' store.

Texas is funny, sell it all any in grocery stores but all the way down to the town level can vote to be dry.

Took quite a drive to get Burkburnett Texas 'wet'. Even though the entire county was wet, the Church Leaders predicted Sodom on the Red River if the tiny town opened a liquor store. Still waiting for the first sign of pillars of salt.
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Might just be Harris county then, because liquor is only sold in liquor stores, but you can get wine and beer almost anywhere, and you're ****ed if you empty your bottle saturday night. No bars open, and no sale of liquor. It's ****ing gay.
 
When I was in college, a friend and I went around asking people to sign a petition against signing petitions.
 
Gina said:
What state are you in?
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Texas, but the counties are where the stupidity really comes in. Dry counties are lame, no liquor on sunday is lame, the fact that you have to buy liquor from a liquor store, even though you can buy beer and wine anywhere else in the state is lame, and all other liquor laws nationwide with the exception of an age limit are just idiotic.
 
Gina said:
What state are you in?
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Texas, but the counties are where the stupidity really comes in. Dry counties are lame, no liquor on sunday is lame, the fact that you have to buy liquor from a liquor store, even though you can buy beer and wine anywhere else in the state is lame, and all other liquor laws nationwide with the exception of an age limit are just idiotic.
 
Surtr said:
Texas, but the counties are where the stupidity really comes in. Dry counties are lame, no liquor on sunday is lame, the fact that you have to buy liquor from a liquor store, even though you can buy beer and wine anywhere else in the state is lame, and all other liquor laws nationwide with the exception of an age limit are just idiotic.
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I agree. Without research, I can only assume the presence of dry counties and variations in laws are left over from prohibition. Just ridiculous. I think Utah drinking laws were the biggest farce. I understand the membership fee was removed in 2009, but how dumb were the "let's pretend" law they had til then.
 
Gina said:
I agree. Without research, I can only assume the presence of dry counties and variations in laws are left over from prohibition. Just ridiculous. I think Utah drinking laws were the biggest farce. I understand the membership fee was removed in 2009, but how dumb were the "let's pretend" law they had til then.
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Utah has to be the worst. I also think it makes no sense at all that people can make their own beer, but get caught operating a still without a license, and off to prison you go. Some guy in NC got 2 and a half years for it in 2010. It's ridiculous.
 
Surtr said:
Utah has to be the worst. I also think it makes no sense at all that people can make their own beer, but get caught operating a still without a license, and off to prison you go. Some guy in NC got 2 and a half years for it in 2010. It's ridiculous.
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I can see the difference and agree with it. Beer and wine are both natural processes that can and do occur without man. Admittedly, it takes man's intervention to make good beer or wine but that's a technicality.
 
I file administrative complaints.

I do not sign petitions unless I am giving something for my signature like a cookie or a cup of joe if I am in the mood for a break.
 
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