View Poll Results: Are Ronmey's undisclosed tax returns equal in importance to Obama's college records?

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  • Yes. Obama's college records are of equal value to Romney's tax returns

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  • No. Its just the best political come back the GOP can come up with under the circumstances

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Thread: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by pimptight View Post
    Honestly, I recognize that most find the BC thing to be frivolous, but I did some deep reading on it, and there are still actually some unanswered questions, that releasing the original of his long form could dispel.

    I'm not saying I believe it, but that I don't trust anything from the MSM these days. (FYI by MSM, I mean everything owned by the 6 corporations that is in print and on TV, and the 4 corporations that control the search engines on the internet.)
    Unless someone proves that Obama is capable of time travel that would have enabled him to get his birth announcement printed in two different Hawaiian newspapers at the time of his birth, myself and most of the independents are not concerned with the birther claims.
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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Unless someone proves that Obama is capable of time travel that would have enabled him to get his birth announcement printed in two different Hawaiian newspapers at the time of his birth, myself and most of the independents are not concerned with the birther claims.
    I don't know how many times I posted the same thing before.

    If your interested, I will PM you the equivalent counter argument that seems just as undeniable. Go search numbers next to fields for Obama's long form if you want to look for yourself.

    Like I said, at this point no one has any credibility left in my book.

    I'll tell you this much, neither side of this argument is crazier than the facts behind what must have taken place to fix the LIBOR. I think people need to redefine what they think is plausible.

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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by pimptight View Post
    I don't know how many times I posted the same thing before.

    If your interested, I will PM you the equivalent counter argument that seems just as undeniable. Go search numbers next to fields for Obama's long form if you want to look for yourself.

    Like I said, at this point no one has any credibility left in my book.

    I'll tell you this much, neither side of this argument is crazier than the facts behind what must have taken place to fix the LIBOR. I think people need to redefine what they think is plausible.


    If you have proof that Obama can time travel, I would be interested in seeing it.
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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    As long as you continue to call for Romney to release his tax forms...for what ever reason...I will continue to call you a taxer. Just like you would call anyone who says anything about Obama's birth certificate a birther.
    Actually I don't really care if he does or not. I can logically conclude what is the likely thing Romney is trying to hide and I entirely agree with his decision from a campaign stand point to not release because I actually understand the topic, unlike you. You however, do not seem to be capable of critically analyzing the situation.

    Romney is actively helping the Obama campaign tear him down by fueling rumors he paid next to nothing legally by refusing to release his returns. You don't help your opponent make your election more unlikely unless disproving the rumor results in a disclosure worse then the rumor you're trying to squash.

    But for some asinine reason you think that it's normal for campaigns to actively help their opponents tear them down. That is a sign of serious partisan hackery.

    His refusal to do so leads back to my point that Romney will continue Obama's secrecy. So anyone who criticizes Obama on secrecy should demand Romney release his returns. Or you're a partisan hypocrite.

    But, hey, I don't blame you for wanting to avoid looking as crazy as the birthers...even if you really are. I mean...in essence, you are saying "I think he was involved in a scandal, but since I have no proof, I want him to give me all his tax returns so I can examine them for something that may or may not be there....oh, but don't get me wrong...this won't affect my vote in the slightest".

    What a crock!!
    It helps to actually read what I wrote. I can logically conclude what he's trying to hide. I also can logically conclude that breaking a tradition of transparency sets a tone for how he'll be as a President.

    You seem to have a problem with Obama's secrecy, but have no problem with Romney starting off with secrecy before he's even elected. Furthermore, you have this asinine notion it's normal for campaigns to help their opponents win.

    And you call me a crock.
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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by pimptight View Post
    Honestly, I recognize that most find the BC thing to be frivolous, but I did some deep reading on it, and there are still actually some unanswered questions, that releasing the original of his long form could dispel.
    There is no long Hawaii birth form.

    You're asking for a document that doesn't exist.
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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    If you have proof that Obama can time travel, I would be interested in seeing it.
    Remember, around partisan elections, many people lose their capacity to think.

    Take Mycroft. He thinks it's normal for campaigns to help their opponents win. Crazy? Absolutely.
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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Actually I don't really care if he does or not. I can logically conclude what is the likely thing Romney is trying to hide and I entirely agree with his decision from a campaign stand point to not release because I actually understand the topic, unlike you. You however, do not seem to be capable of critically analyzing the situation.

    Romney is actively helping the Obama campaign tear him down by fueling rumors he paid next to nothing legally by refusing to release his returns. You don't help your opponent make your election more unlikely unless disproving the rumor results in a disclosure worse then the rumor you're trying to squash.

    But for some asinine reason you think that it's normal for campaigns to actively help their opponents tear them down. That is a sign of serious partisan hackery.

    His refusal to do so leads back to my point that Romney will continue Obama's secrecy. So anyone who criticizes Obama on secrecy should demand Romney release his returns. Or you're a partisan hypocrite.



    It helps to actually read what I wrote. I can logically conclude what he's trying to hide. I also can logically conclude that breaking a tradition of transparency sets a tone for how he'll be as a President.

    You seem to have a problem with Obama's secrecy, but have no problem with Romney starting off with secrecy before he's even elected. Furthermore, you have this asinine notion it's normal for campaigns to help their opponents win.

    And you call me a crock.
    Dude...I have no problem with Obama's secrecy...if he has any...much like I don't have a problem with Romney's decision to not bow to the howling masses by releasing his tax returns. But, hey...we all have our obsessions. Mine happens to be for less government. Yours happens to be about Romney's tax returns.

    Bottom line answer to the thread title's question: Yes, they are equally relevant...which is to say, they both are not relevant at all.

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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    IF what Harry Reid said ... that Romney didnt pay taxes for nearly 10 years, I am fairly sure the IRS would be knocking on his door... no questions asked. A tip can be the start of an audit, so if there were any credibility to it ... Harry should have had his little bird tell the IRS.


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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Romney's tax returns would allow us to have a very important conversation about a broken and unfair tax code.

    Obama's school records will tell us nothing we don't already know--he rose to the occasion at Harvard Law school and achieved excellence.

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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Romney's tax returns would allow us to have a very important conversation about a broken and unfair tax code.

    Obama's school records will tell us nothing we don't already know--he rose to the occasion at Harvard Law school and achieved excellence.
    Stupid logic, there.

    We don't need Romney's returns to tell us the tax code is forked. We already know this. We can have that important conversation any time the Democrats are ready to talk.

    But, hey...if you REALLY want to see some tax returns that illustrate the broken tax codes, I'd suggest looking at G.E.'s returns. I bet you could find some really interesting stuff there.
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