View Poll Results: Are Ronmey's undisclosed tax returns equal in importance to Obama's college records?

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  • Yes. Obama's college records are of equal value to Romney's tax returns

    19 20.00%
  • No. Its just the best political come back the GOP can come up with under the circumstances

    42 44.21%
  • Neither tax or college records matter in the election.

    22 23.16%
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Thread: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    On the contrary, I know Romney paid taxes.

    Merely because you are unaware of what actually occurs does not make me a taxer. Furthermore, the fact that I know Romney paid eliminate that pathetic labeling attempt. I have never once argued Romney didn't pay. In fact I have come out stating he did pay. So you can put away that pathetic line (despite the fact that declaring yourself not a birther you have in fact use birther arguments).

    Let's do this slowly for you:
    1) Romney is fueling his own rumors he paid nothing to the detriment of his campaign
    2) Romney is letting the Democrats get away with this

    Now, why would Romney let his opponents keep pushing a rumor and HIMSELF contribute to it if there wasn't something WORSE then not paying taxes?
    The Romney campaign is doing cost vs benefit. The cost of proving Reid full of **** (which he is) is not worth the cost of revealing a tax scandal.

    You don't let a rumor like this go on unless the cost of disproving it is worse.

    Seriously, use some critical thinking for a change.
    You misunderstand what a "taxer" is. A taxer is someone obsessed with seeing Romney's tax returns. Plain and simple. And you, my friend, are obsessed. What you hope to find if he ever does release them is immaterial.
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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    You misunderstand what a "taxer" is. A taxer is someone obsessed with seeing Romney's tax returns. Plain and simple. And you, my friend, are obsessed. What you hope to find if he ever does release them is immaterial.
    On the contrary, you just made that up. Taxers are concerned with whether or not Romney paid taxes. I know he paid taxes. Therefore I'm not a taxer. What I'm concerned primarily about is this lack of transparency. If Romney will not release tax returns, he will be honest about things as a President. I am curious just which scandal he got involved in, but that does not affect my vote.

    You want more Obama secrecy? Vote for Romney.

    And I'm not your friend. You are way too hypocritical for that.

    Oh Look, a self proclaimed taxer:

    The Ostroy Report: <a name="8612">I'm a "Taxer"</a>

    "You've heard of "Birthers?" Those relentless, ubiquitous conspiracy zealots who insist that Barack Obama is not a natural born citizen and therefore not eligible to be president? Well, I'm a Taxer. I believe Mitt Romney, the presumptive Republican nominee for president, has failed to pay his fair share of taxes for the past ten years or more and I demand that he release his returns to prove otherwise"

    Huh. I'm not a taxer. You fail.
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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    On the contrary, you just made that up. Taxers are concerned with whether or not Romney paid taxes. I know he paid taxes. Therefore I'm not a taxer. What I'm concerned primarily about is this lack of transparency. If Romney will not release tax returns, he will be honest about things as a President. I am curious just which scandal he got involved in, but that does not affect my vote.

    You want more Obama secrecy? Vote for Romney.

    And I'm not your friend. You are way too hypocritical for that.

    Oh Look, a self proclaimed taxer:

    The Ostroy Report: <a name="8612">I'm a "Taxer"</a>

    "You've heard of "Birthers?" Those relentless, ubiquitous conspiracy zealots who insist that Barack Obama is not a natural born citizen and therefore not eligible to be president? Well, I'm a Taxer. I believe Mitt Romney, the presumptive Republican nominee for president, has failed to pay his fair share of taxes for the past ten years or more and I demand that he release his returns to prove otherwise"

    Huh. I'm not a taxer. You fail.
    As long as you continue to call for Romney to release his tax forms...for what ever reason...I will continue to call you a taxer. Just like you would call anyone who says anything about Obama's birth certificate a birther.

    But, hey, I don't blame you for wanting to avoid looking as crazy as the birthers...even if you really are. I mean...in essence, you are saying "I think he was involved in a scandal, but since I have no proof, I want him to give me all his tax returns so I can examine them for something that may or may not be there....oh, but don't get me wrong...this won't affect my vote in the slightest".

    What a crock!!
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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    There has been much in the news lately about Mitt Romney's tax returns that he won't release. Many of his supporters claim its unnecessary, irrelevant and then cite President Obama's undisclosed college records as presumably an equal example of their opposition not being completely transparent while holding Romney to a double standard. I'm probably the most objective person I know on political matters if I must say so myself. I think both Obama and Romney have something to hide. However, I don't think Obama's college records are anywhere near as relevant a campaign issue as Mitt Romney's taxes for a variety of reasons. My question is do you think President Obama's college transcripts are equally relevant and an important factor to consider in the 2012 election as Mitt Romney's undisclosed tax returns?
    according to this poll a big NO

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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Romney's disclosed enough. Now it's time for the president to follow suit.

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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    There has been much in the news lately about Mitt Romney's tax returns that he won't release. Many of his supporters claim its unnecessary, irrelevant and then cite President Obama's undisclosed college records as presumably an equal example of their opposition not being completely transparent while holding Romney to a double standard. I'm probably the most objective person I know on political matters if I must say so myself. I think both Obama and Romney have something to hide. However, I don't think Obama's college records are anywhere near as relevant a campaign issue as Mitt Romney's taxes for a variety of reasons. My question is do you think President Obama's college transcripts are equally relevant and an important factor to consider in the 2012 election as Mitt Romney's undisclosed tax returns?
    "More than two thirds of Independents (67%) want Mitt Romney to release more tax returns."

    63% of Americans Demand That Mitt Romney Release His Tax Returns


    Since there is no corresponding response from independents over the president's college records, we can definitively say that Romney's tax returns and the president's college records are not comparable.
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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    I think Obama should offer the original copy of his birth certificate in exchange for Romeny's taxes.

    It undermines Romney's credibility with the center if he agrees, by acting as if this is still a legit topic.

    If Romney refuses he undermines himself with the extreme right.

    Either way it contrasts how Obama had to release his BC, but Romney doesn't have to release his taxes.

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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by pimptight View Post
    I think Obama should offer the original copy of his birth certificate in exchange for Romeny's taxes.
    Romney would be more than happy to show 10 years of his tax returns if Obama showed his original birth certificate from Kenya.

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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    Romney would be more than happy to show 10 years of his tax returns if Obama showed his original birth certificate from Kenya.
    More than 2/3 of independents want Romney to release his tax returns, where are your statistics that show 2/3 of independents are birthers like the far right?
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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    More than 2/3 of independents want Romney to release his tax returns, where are your statistics that show 2/3 of independents are birthers like the far right?
    Honestly, I recognize that most find the BC thing to be frivolous, but I did some deep reading on it, and there are still actually some unanswered questions, that releasing the original of his long form could dispel.

    I'm not saying I believe it, but that I don't trust anything from the MSM these days. (FYI by MSM, I mean everything owned by the 6 corporations that is in print and on TV, and the 4 corporations that control the search engines on the internet.)

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