View Poll Results: Are Ronmey's undisclosed tax returns equal in importance to Obama's college records?

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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Both of those arguments have the same relevance to me as this one.

    I have heard that Mitt Romney/ Barack Obama have dirty finger nails. He must prove that he does not have dirty finger nails by showing us his finger nails. He is hiding his nails because they are dirty. This leads me to the conclusion that mitt Romney / Barack Obama hates and has contempt for people who clean their finger nails.
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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Ahhh...I see. No problem, then.

    I don't have your religious or racial biases, so I can't comment on your opinions about the Mormon Church or whether there is any racial favoritism in the Winter Olympics (kind of doubt that one, though). I look at Romney's record regarding the Olympics as a successful endeavor to rescue, revive and successfully pull off a massive world-wide sporting event. It was really quite an accomplishment.
    Utter nonsense. Romney got his Mormons on base to fund the damn thing and then begged for federal money from the government (which a lot of "small government conservatives" seem to forget). If that is what "running" an event is, you may as well start calling GM a well managed company.

    Now, comparing that accomplishment to Obama's successes as a community activist? Given the fact that I don't really know WHAT Obama accomplished during that period, I'm having difficulty here. Maybe the best thing about his time as a community activist was the education and connections he received in the Chicago political machine. We can be sure those were instrumental in his ability to get where he is today.
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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Utter nonsense. Romney got his Mormons on base to fund the damn thing and then begged for federal money from the government (which a lot of "small government conservatives" seem to forget). If that is what "running" an event is, you may as well start calling GM a well managed company.

    Okay...so you don't like the way he did it. Good for you. But you cannot deny his accomplishment.

    LOL!!

    Yep...posting that picture is a good way to avoid making a cogent response.

    Good job, dude.
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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    LOL!!

    Yep...posting that picture is a good way to avoid making a cogent response.

    Good job, dude.
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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    There is no logical way to respond to an illogical assessment of Chicago politics. If you find them to be any dirtier than the politics in Massachusetts where entire political dynasties have been born, then hey, I can't really argue with that kind of nonsense.
    Ummm...

    You DO know how Obama got to where he is today, don't you? Hint: It wasn't by convincing people that he was ever the best man for the job.
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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Ummm...

    You DO know how Obama got to where he is today, don't you? Hint: It wasn't by convincing people that he was ever the best man for the job.
    Please do inform us then.
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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Please do inform us then.
    Well...I must say I'm surprised by your response. I thought, surely, that someone who defends Obama would know about him...but on second thought, you don't actually defend him. You only attack his opponents.

    Anyway, this is how it happened:

    He became a State Senator, not by winning his nomination, but by knocking his opponents out of the race. He got the nomination by default. When he ran for U.S. Senator, he got his Democratic opponents divorce papers exposed, causing him to withdraw. Again, he got his nomination by default. The then pulled the same trick on his Republican opponent, causing him to withdraw and the Republican replacements was so inept, Obama cruised to an easy victory.

    Chicago political tactics at its best.

    Now...in his previous and current Presidential races, he obviously can't make his opponents withdraw...but he didn't...and now doesn't...hesitate to try to smear his opponents in any way possible.

    More Chicago political tactics.

    He had an easier time with McCain...in large part by connecting McCain to Bush. He's having a harder time with Romney...but he's trying his best. Witness the current taxer tactics.

    Bottom line: Obama has never won a race based solely on his qualifications and positions. He has always used sleazy Chicago political tactics.

    You know, haymarket...some people would charge good money for providing an education. You're lucky I don't need your money and that I'm doing it for free.
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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    What international tax shelter scandal?
    The one that would be reported on a 2009 tax return. The only real reason why Romney would let people go on thinking he paid no taxes for a decade is because releasing his returns that show he did pay (which he did) would show something far more scandalous. The only two that come to mind in the years in question that are worse then letting people think you paid no taxes for a decade is either the UBS or the KPMG one. Letting the Democrats go hog wild on you and fueling the rumors you paid nothing when it is incredibly easy to prove them wrong is bad. Letting the Democrats know you got caught in a scandal is epically worse. From a tax position stand point, it is in Romney's best interest to let people think he paid nothing rather then let them know he got caught.
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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    The one that would be reported on a 2009 tax return. The only real reason why Romney would let people go on thinking he paid no taxes for a decade is because releasing his returns that show he did pay (which he did) would show something far more scandalous. The only two that come to mind in the years in question that are worse then letting people think you paid no taxes for a decade is either the UBS or the KPMG one. Letting the Democrats go hog wild on you and fueling the rumors you paid nothing when it is incredibly easy to prove them wrong is bad. Letting the Democrats know you got caught in a scandal is epically worse. From a tax position stand point, it is in Romney's best interest to let people think he paid nothing rather then let them know he got caught.
    I see...

    So there really isn't a scandal...but you think there MIGHT be one.

    Do you realize you are on the same sheet of music as the Birthers?
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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I see...

    So there really isn't a scandal...but you think there MIGHT be one.

    Do you realize you are on the same sheet of music as the Birthers?
    On the contrary, I know Romney paid taxes.

    Merely because you are unaware of what actually occurs does not make me a taxer. Furthermore, the fact that I know Romney paid eliminate that pathetic labeling attempt. I have never once argued Romney didn't pay. In fact I have come out stating he did pay. So you can put away that pathetic line (despite the fact that declaring yourself not a birther you have in fact use birther arguments).

    Let's do this slowly for you:
    1) Romney is fueling his own rumors he paid nothing to the detriment of his campaign
    2) Romney is letting the Democrats get away with this

    Now, why would Romney let his opponents keep pushing a rumor and HIMSELF contribute to it if there wasn't something WORSE then not paying taxes?
    The Romney campaign is doing cost vs benefit. The cost of proving Reid full of **** (which he is) is not worth the cost of revealing a tax scandal.

    You don't let a rumor like this go on unless the cost of disproving it is worse.

    Seriously, use some critical thinking for a change.
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