View Poll Results: Are Ronmey's undisclosed tax returns equal in importance to Obama's college records?

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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yeah... bragging about running an event just slightly more relevant than the Special Olympics doesnt rank all that higher than community activist.
    LOL!!!

    Did you just equate running the 2002 Olympic Winter Games with being a community activist??? REALLY???

    Dude...I'm speechless!!
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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post

    Second, people with Romney's kind of wealth don't generally cheat on taxes. They know the consequences. Their taxes are prepared by professionals whose licenses and professional reputations are on the line

    You sure about that?


    UBS netted 5,000+ uber-wealthy Americans.

    KPMG tax scandal was sold by KPMG with the full knowledge of the partners and managers that it was flat out illegal. A near half billion dollar fine was their punishment. Their savings grace was the fact that the Fed thought leaving only 3 big accounting firms would be bad for the market.
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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    How Romney's Swiss accounts were closed would be on his tax forms. How he got $100 million in his IRA will also be there.
    No. That would be on his FBAR. The new foreign asset disclosure report is new for 2011. Meaning if he closed them in the past, he didn't have to disclose explictly that he closed them. You could infer if you got his FBARs that he closed them by comparing the accounts from separate years. FBAR is technically not part of your tax forms.

    Furthermore, that $100 million, that's fair market value? If so, buying shares in carried interest wouldn't go on his tax forms either.
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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Taxers...birthers...transcripters...

    None of it is important.

    Instead, look to the public record of accomplishments of each candidate. If you do, you'll have more than enough factual information upon which to make your voting decision.
    So if Romney was caught in an international tax shelter scandal, that wouldn't be an issue for you?
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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Not uncommon of high dollar transactions among the super-rich. And like you, If it were me I'd do the exact same thing. That said, many average Americans have no clue about this legal tax avoidance strategy and with some, once they hear of it, its so shocking they assume it must be an urban myth.

    Some companies can sign documents on international waters, at a certain altitude in the air, or cross state lines to avoid paying tax.
    How Businesses Bank on Tax Loopholes | Business Pundit
    I'm sorry, some of those just don't make sense. Signing a contract outside of the US doesn't mean you don't pay taxes on the sale or transfer of assets out or into the US merely because the ink dried out over the water.

    And I see no reason why Google should pay taxes on sales that are not related to US activities. What did Google use from the US to generate such sales?
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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    No, they are not equally relevant.

    I think both are distraction issues, but taxes could be a matter of legality. They are at least potentially relevant, if nothing else, even if I still roll my eyes every time it comes up.

    But asking the college records of a 51-year-old man? Really? Even if he had D's, what the hell does it matter at this point?

    I'm a radically different student just 5 years down the line in college than I was in high school. My performance in high school has jack to do with my performance in college because I'm a very different person with a very different set of motivators. Most admissions boards understood that.

    If it's obvious that my performance at 17 is not an indicator of my performance at 23, then what the hell does how Obama did in college 3 decades ago have to do with his presidency now?

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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Answer me this:

    What matters more in terms of honesty of a candidate:
    What their transcripts show three decades or if their taxes show an illegal tax shelter three years ago?

    I seriously doubt Romney will release 2008~2009. That's the key prime years for tax shelter disclosure.
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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    So if Romney was caught in an international tax shelter scandal, that wouldn't be an issue for you?
    What international tax shelter scandal?
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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    LOL!!!

    Did you just equate running the 2002 Olympic Winter Games with being a community activist??? REALLY???

    Dude...I'm speechless!!
    No. I'm saying their relevancy is quite close to nil in regards to how I judge politics. Doesn't stop Romney fans from mentally masturbating at the thought of their idol running an exercise in ethnocentricity. I guess given the history of the Mormon church, running an event where mostly "white" rich countries are involved would seem like the right job to brag about.
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    Re: Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    No. I'm saying their relevancy is quite close to nil in regards to how I judge politics. Doesn't stop Romney fans from mentally masturbating at the thought of their idol running an exercise in ethnocentricity. I guess given the history of the Mormon church, running an event where mostly "white" rich countries are involved would seem like the right job to brag about.
    Ahhh...I see. No problem, then.

    I don't have your religious or racial biases, so I can't comment on your opinions about the Mormon Church or whether there is any racial favoritism in the Winter Olympics (kind of doubt that one, though). I look at Romney's record regarding the Olympics as a successful endeavor to rescue, revive and successfully pull off a massive world-wide sporting event. It was really quite an accomplishment.

    Now, comparing that accomplishment to Obama's successes as a community activist? Given the fact that I don't really know WHAT Obama accomplished during that period, I'm having difficulty here. Maybe the best thing about his time as a community activist was the education and connections he received in the Chicago political machine. We can be sure those were instrumental in his ability to get where he is today.
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