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    Is Requiring Voters to Register an Unreasonable Intrusion on the Right to Vote?

    Obviously this question has been sparked by the whole voter ID debate. If there's no concern at all that voter fraud could even happen and it's completely unreasonable to expect someone to obtain a photo ID, couldn't the very same arguments be made against requiring people having to register to vote in the first place? Can I assume that if you oppose voter ID, you also oppose voter registration requirements?

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    Re: Is Requiring Voters to Register an Unreasonable Intrusion on the Right to Vote?

    Absolutely not, although I want them to produce ID to vote too, so...
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    Re: Is Requiring Voters to Register an Unreasonable Intrusion on the Right to Vote?

    Of course it's not an "unreasonable intrusion". Not only should voters be expected to register, they should produce proof of citizenship as well. It's ludicrous to believe that anonymous people should be allowed to simply show up at a polling booth and demand a ballot.

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    Re: Is Requiring Voters to Register an Unreasonable Intrusion on the Right to Vote?

    Yes, I support voters requiring to register, and just one of many reasons is to limit abuse involved in it.

    I'd rather see voting numbers drop instead of increase, as voting is more of a privilege than a right, in my opinion. I've seen some people who vote that just clearly lack the mental ability to know what to vote for.

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    Re: Is Requiring Voters to Register an Unreasonable Intrusion on the Right to Vote?

    No, it's not unreasonable, however, I also add that I live in a state (the only state) that does not have voter registration. We prefer it this way, it makes our lives easier, but I'm not sufficiently informed as to be able to say it is workable in more populated states, let alone popular among existing voters or legislators in many states.
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    Re: Is Requiring Voters to Register an Unreasonable Intrusion on the Right to Vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Yes, I support voters requiring to register, and just one of many reasons is to limit abuse involved in it.

    I'd rather see voting numbers drop instead of increase, as voting is more of a privilege than a right, in my opinion. I've seen some people who vote that just clearly lack the mental ability to know what to vote for.
    I'm entirely fine with people having a right to vote, but with rights come responsibilities and if these people cannot be responsible enough to register and carry ID, they're too damn irresponsible to vote.
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    Re: Is Requiring Voters to Register an Unreasonable Intrusion on the Right to Vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    No, it's not unreasonable, however, I also add that I live in a state (the only state) that does not have voter registration. We prefer it this way, it makes our lives easier, but I'm not sufficiently informed as to be able to say it is workable in more populated states, let alone popular among existing voters or legislators in many states.
    That's interesting Fiddy, how does that work?

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    Re: Is Requiring Voters to Register an Unreasonable Intrusion on the Right to Vote?

    It's pretty simple.

    First, you discover your living area zone and where in the community you vote. When you show up, you stand in a line for your last name (A-K, L-Z or so), and they will tell you to pull our your driver's license or state ID (more on this in a minute). When you get up to the tables you hand in the ID and they will see if you show up on the records of previous voters. If you do not, they will take down the information on the ID: name, address, etc etc. and write it on the "new voter" spreadsheet. They hand you your ballot and tell you the instructions, especially during the primary season, and away you go. Now, I have voted in person at my home town before (usually during the summer elections), but during national elections I vote via absentee ballot (another relatively simple process through the net for me, but I do need to do it weeks in advance). However, because of that I suppose I was not on the record for having voted before, so they labeled me a new voter (meanwhile the entire family, including my much younger sister were already listed) and went through the quick process of writing down my information. No biggie, very common procedure. It took less than a couple of minutes from the time of the table to my ballot being in my hand.

    Now, on the ID bit. Yes, they ask you for your ID in the lines. However, that seems more of a courtesy to you and the staff or simply more commonplace. You can also submit a utility bill that is dated 30 days prior to election or a change of address verification letter, and numerous other photo IDs.
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    Re: Is Requiring Voters to Register an Unreasonable Intrusion on the Right to Vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Yes, I support voters requiring to register, and just one of many reasons is to limit abuse involved in it.

    I'd rather see voting numbers drop instead of increase, as voting is more of a privilege than a right, in my opinion. I've seen some people who vote that just clearly lack the mental ability to know what to vote for.
    You're assuming that there is a correlation between political knowledge and willingness/ability to gain an ID. I'm not well versed on this topic (and consider myself neutral on it), but I don't see why this correlation would be true.
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    Re: Is Requiring Voters to Register an Unreasonable Intrusion on the Right to Vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Obviously this question has been sparked by the whole voter ID debate. If there's no concern at all that voter fraud could even happen and it's completely unreasonable to expect someone to obtain a photo ID, couldn't the very same arguments be made against requiring people having to register to vote in the first place? Can I assume that if you oppose voter ID, you also oppose voter registration requirements?

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