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Thread: Is Requiring Voters to Register an Unreasonable Intrusion on the Right to Vote?

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    Re: Is Requiring Voters to Register an Unreasonable Intrusion on the Right to Vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Just curious (and not meaning to get too sidetracked)...

    Contrary to popular perception, we have never allowed literally everybody in who wanted to come. (Yes, I realize you did say "everybody", but then qualified it with "no major restrictions") Even in the heyday of Ellis Island we turned away known criminals and diseased individuals. Do you have a restrictions at all?

    I wouldn't have any serious restrictions. I think minor restrictions like a toll booth might be ok, but huge fees or huge waiting times are too oppressive to freedom of movement to be morally justified.

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    Re: Is Requiring Voters to Register an Unreasonable Intrusion on the Right to Vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Impressive, but does not change the fact that a national ID would solve a lot of problems with the minimal intrusion into the privacy of the citizen.
    I can't think of any problems that a national id would solve. I can think of a lot of problems it would create, though.

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    Re: Is Requiring Voters to Register an Unreasonable Intrusion on the Right to Vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    1,099 felons were identified as having voted, and 177 (so far convicted).

    But hey, don't be upset. Voter Fraud is Bi-Partisan
    No, 1,099 names were identified by a conservative organization who cross checked felons and voting rosters. And as far as i can tell, it is NOT true that there were 177 identified cases of felons who voted in that election. Looked it up, can't find it, the only source I found that uses the figure is Von Spakovsky, who has a history of going around making false claims about voter fraud. If you can find a source, though, how do you reconcile that number with what you were saying - "hundreds of felons voted" for Franken and it could have tipped the election in his favor? Franken won by 350 votes. 177 convictions + 66 remaining cases = 243 votes. So even if the figures you stated are correct (which I don't think they are) and every single one of those votes were cast for Franken (which obviously wouldn't be the case) Franken STILL comes out on top by over 100 votes. And then you're still left with the probability that in some or many cases, a felon who is on the roster or votes is unaware that it is illegal.

    Anyway, I'll just point you to the bottom line, VIA the MN secretary of state: “The numbers are a complete lie,” Freeman’s spokesman said before the Hennepin County Attorney came on the phone. “They keep going on television and repeating this lie, even though we debunked this with the work we had to do.”
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    Re: Is Requiring Voters to Register an Unreasonable Intrusion on the Right to Vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Obviously this question has been sparked by the whole voter ID debate. If there's no concern at all that voter fraud could even happen and it's completely unreasonable to expect someone to obtain a photo ID, couldn't the very same arguments be made against requiring people having to register to vote in the first place? Can I assume that if you oppose voter ID, you also oppose voter registration requirements?

    Need a sec to get the poll up. Options will be simple; yes, no and I don't know.
    I don't see what the big deal is. If you can't even manage to get a DL, or a state issue ID, you got more things to worry about than the voting booth.
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    Re: Is Requiring Voters to Register an Unreasonable Intrusion on the Right to Vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    From 2010:

    as of five days ago:


    1,099 felons were identified as having voted, and 177 (so far convicted).


    But hey, don't be upset. Voter Fraud is Bi-Partisan .
    Felons can vote in most states. If not right away, upon disposal of their case.
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