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    Re: Is Requiring Voters to Register an Unreasonable Intrusion on the Right to Vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    You dont need to go to that extreme but yes a national ID would fix a lot of problems.. including illegal immigration No ID, no job.. anyone working without a job, the employer gets fined first, and second time goes to jail. Watch the illegal problem poof pretty fast.
    As a libertarian, I am against any immigration restrictions, so "illegal immigration" is not something I see as a problem. I welcome all foreigners with open arms, everybody should be allowed to come to this country and become a citizen with no major restrictions. Freedom of movement is a human right.

    Any argument that uses illegal as a noun is instantly suspect to me. There is a lot of racism behind those who oppose immigration reform.

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    Re: Is Requiring Voters to Register an Unreasonable Intrusion on the Right to Vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    As a libertarian, I am against any immigration restrictions, so "illegal immigration" is not something I see as a problem. I welcome all foreigners with open arms, everybody should be allowed to come to this country and become a citizen with no major restrictions. Freedom of movement is a human right.

    Any argument that uses illegal as a noun is instantly suspect to me. There is a lot of racism behind those who oppose immigration reform.
    Impressive, but does not change the fact that a national ID would solve a lot of problems with the minimal intrusion into the privacy of the citizen.
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    Re: Is Requiring Voters to Register an Unreasonable Intrusion on the Right to Vote?

    I think I misread the question. I thought you meant requiring people to register to vote whether they were actually going to vote or not. Because I am against forcing people to do that.
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    Re: Is Requiring Voters to Register an Unreasonable Intrusion on the Right to Vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    As a libertarian, I am against any immigration restrictions, so "illegal immigration" is not something I see as a problem. I welcome all foreigners with open arms, everybody should be allowed to come to this country and become a citizen with no major restrictions. Freedom of movement is a human right.

    Any argument that uses illegal as a noun is instantly suspect to me. There is a lot of racism behind those who oppose immigration reform.
    Just curious (and not meaning to get too sidetracked)...

    Contrary to popular perception, we have never allowed literally everybody in who wanted to come. (Yes, I realize you did say "everybody", but then qualified it with "no major restrictions") Even in the heyday of Ellis Island we turned away known criminals and diseased individuals. Do you have a restrictions at all?
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    Re: Is Requiring Voters to Register an Unreasonable Intrusion on the Right to Vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Yeah. Turns out hundreds of felons came out to vote for ole Al. Since he won by only a few hundred votes, it makes it an interesting question as to whether or not we currently have a sitting Senator who did not actually win his seat.
    Interesting lies, now how about the facts? Franken won the election by over 300 votes. The allegations well after the fact were that as many as 400 felons may have come to polls that day. This was suggested by a conservative action group in Minnesota and then was investigated. Here are the results of that investigation: "In October 2010, the Hennepin County Sheriff's Office concluded an extensive investigation into 110 allegations of fraud, which resulted in six charges being filed — two individuals were charged with the separate felonies of registering to vote while ineligible and voting while ineligible and four others were charged with voting while ineligible."

    As to the claim that over 400 felons voted: "About 270 were clearly inaccurate."

    Every single ballot was looked at and both sides had to agree that they were properly completed and submitted. The only argument the Franken/Coleman election serves to prove is that our system is transparent and effective. It's very frustrating that people are willing to believe blatant lies in favor of a simple fact check. Not only is it a lie that hundreds of felons voted, the felons who did vote were actually charged for doing so.
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    Radcen: the privacy portion never went into my head. I won't go far as to refer to black aircraft but it's not really a concern.
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    Re: Is Requiring Voters to Register an Unreasonable Intrusion on the Right to Vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Radcen: the privacy portion never went into my head. I won't go far as to refer to black aircraft but it's not really a concern.
    And you're probably right. I am aware that there are times that I get a little too cynical. But, in my defense, I still occasionally see news stories that exceed even my cynicism.

    On any political topic, I mean, not just voting.
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    Is Requiring Voters to Register an Unreasonable Intrusion on the Right to Vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    And you're probably right. I am aware that there are times that I get a little too cynical. But, in my defense, I still occasionally see news stories that exceed even my cynicism.

    On any political topic, I mean, not just voting.
    Well, as far as I know there had not been any real concerns. If you vote in the caucus, it will be easier for people to know you affiliation due to proximity, but for the most part much is fine. I'm the son of a lobbyist- a lobbyist who prefers to keep their political inclinations silent so as to be able to more effectively make pitches and network with all groups to benefit the group that is represented through the lobbying.
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    Re: Is Requiring Voters to Register an Unreasonable Intrusion on the Right to Vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    I voted no

    but I base that on the premise that the IDs will be readily available and free.
    Of course state drivers licenses and state IDs should be acceptable along with other IDs, photo gun licenses, pass ports etc.

    But If a person doesnt have one of those the task should be super easy and free to obtain a vote ID card.

    If its not then I would say yes it is pushing the limits
    just wanted to add to what I already said because I think its a very very valid point.

    Since an election is so close all laws concerning this should not be absolute till the next election. Cant remember who said it but I think it is shady or harmful or restrictive to implement these changes so close to election time "IF" its mandatory and theres no loop holes this first time around and there isnt QUICK and FREE access to obtain an ID.
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    Re: Is Requiring Voters to Register an Unreasonable Intrusion on the Right to Vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    Interesting lies, now how about the facts? Franken won the election by over 300 votes. The allegations well after the fact were that as many as 400 felons may have come to polls that day. This was suggested by a conservative action group in Minnesota and then was investigated. Here are the results of that investigation: "In October 2010, the Hennepin County Sheriff's Office concluded an extensive investigation into 110 allegations of fraud, which resulted in six charges being filed — two individuals were charged with the separate felonies of registering to vote while ineligible and voting while ineligible and four others were charged with voting while ineligible."

    As to the claim that over 400 felons voted: "About 270 were clearly inaccurate."

    Every single ballot was looked at and both sides had to agree that they were properly completed and submitted. The only argument the Franken/Coleman election serves to prove is that our system is transparent and effective. It's very frustrating that people are willing to believe blatant lies in favor of a simple fact check. Not only is it a lie that hundreds of felons voted, the felons who did vote were actually charged for doing so.
    From 2010:
    ... Phil Carruthers of the local District Attorney's office[/url] says he takes the charges "very seriously" and found that Minnesota Majority "had done a good job in their review." His office has asked for 15 investigators to be hired to pursue the information. "So far we have charged 28 people with felonies, have 17 more under review and have 182 cases still open," he said. "And there is a good chance we may match or even exceed [Minnesota Majority's] numbers."..
    as of five days ago:
    ...177 people have been convicted -- not just accused, but convicted -- of voting fraudulently in the Senate race. Another 66 are awaiting trial. "The numbers aren't greater," the authors say, "because the standard for convicting someone of voter fraud in Minnesota is that they must have been both ineligible, and 'knowingly' voted unlawfully." The accused can get off by claiming not to have known they did anything wrong....
    1,099 felons were identified as having voted, and 177 (so far convicted).


    But hey, don't be upset. Voter Fraud is Bi-Partisan .

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