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Thread: Euthanasia and assisted suicide

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    Re: Euthanasia and assisted suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    As far as I'm concerned, so long as you have a legal document granting permission to assist in suicide, by the suicidee, it ought to be legal for anyone to assist you in suicide. Of course, there would have to be controls in place to stop coerced suicides, but if I want my wife to kill me because I'm terminally ill and cannot do it myself, she ought to be able to do it.
    I'm totally okay with that if someone is in pain. I don't know about asking family members to do it for you though. That's kind of harsh for them, I would think. I would never want my family member to have to live with that memory. Besides, if I were terminally ill and wanted to end it, I think I would feel more comfortable with an "expert" so that nothing gets messed up, because that would really suck . . . if your family member (who probably has never killed someone before) messed something up and you lived. There would be a LOT of things to think about.

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    Re: Euthanasia and assisted suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I'm totally okay with that if someone is in pain. I don't know about asking family members to do it for you though. That's kind of harsh for them, I would think. I would never want my family member to have to live with that memory. Besides, if I were terminally ill and wanted to end it, I think I would feel more comfortable with an "expert" so that nothing gets messed up, because that would really suck . . . if your family member (who probably has never killed someone before) messed something up and you lived. There would be a LOT of things to think about.
    I don't even care if they're in pain. If they want to die, let them die. My point above though was that if someone wants to die and someone else is willing to do it, it should be allowed without any negative legal consequences befalling the individual. I really don't think it ought to be left up to some professional or governmental entity whether someone can end their own life.

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    Re: Euthanasia and assisted suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I don't even care if they're in pain. If they want to die, let them die. My point above though was that if someone wants to die and someone else is willing to do it, it should be allowed without any negative legal consequences befalling the individual. I really don't think it ought to be left up to some professional or governmental entity whether someone can end their own life.

    You want to die? Go ahead.
    Yes, I don't think they should be charged with a crime. I remember hearing a news story about a poor old man who did a mercy killing on his wife who was terminal with cancer and in a lot of pain, and he was arrested and put in jail. Sad.

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    Re: Euthanasia and assisted suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Yes, I don't think they should be charged with a crime. I remember hearing a news story about a poor old man who did a mercy killing on his wife who was terminal with cancer and in a lot of pain, and he was arrested and put in jail. Sad.
    It's downright stupid. I think that hospitals ought to be required to follow an individual's advance directives and if they specifically say that they are to be put down, put them down. If they can't or won't do it, by all means transfer them to a facility that will. I do think people should think ahead and make legal declarations of their wishes in the instance that they find themselves unable to do so when the come comes. No one should ever be punished for carrying out someone's legal directives.
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    Re: Euthanasia and assisted suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Right now, nothing is legal. I think it all should be.



    While I have an advance directive too, they will never terminate you. At best, they will take you off of life support. If you continue to live, they will take no further action.

    I want someone to be able to kill me, not just hope nature takes it's course.



    Which is why I hold the position that I would do it myself.

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    Re: Euthanasia and assisted suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I'm totally okay with that if someone is in pain. I don't know about asking family members to do it for you though. That's kind of harsh for them, I would think. I would never want my family member to have to live with that memory. Besides, if I were terminally ill and wanted to end it, I think I would feel more comfortable with an "expert" so that nothing gets messed up, because that would really suck . . . if your family member (who probably has never killed someone before) messed something up and you lived. There would be a LOT of things to think about.
    Why not? I would. It'd be incredibly hard, but I can think of no more loving final act I could do for my loved ones than to help afford them a dignified death. It's really not that hard to kill someone with the right tools in a controlled setting. It's just that the very ill may be so weak or disabled that they can't do it, despite how easy it may be.

    If my cat doesn't die naturally before she gets to a point where keeping her alive is cruel, I have already planned to have an at-home visit from the vet. If I can administer it myself, I will. She shouldn't be handled by some strange person she doesn't trust in her final moments. I don't want her to die scared. It's horrible for me to think about, but she is old and sick, and I don't want to get caught off guard when it's time to make that decision, so I have thought about it. I very nearly did it about a year ago, but fortunately a last-ditch medication effort brought her back to a good standard of living.

    Why wouldn't I afford a human loved one the same consideration I give my cat?

    No one should force the family to, of course. If they are unwilling, the person can be provided with a medical assistant to do it instead.

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    Re: Euthanasia and assisted suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    Which is why I hold the position that I would do it myself.
    Which is great unless you wake up in a bed a quadriplegic. Then you're physically unable to do it yourself.
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    Re: Euthanasia and assisted suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I don't even care if they're in pain. If they want to die, let them die. My point above though was that if someone wants to die and someone else is willing to do it, it should be allowed without any negative legal consequences befalling the individual. I really don't think it ought to be left up to some professional or governmental entity whether someone can end their own life.

    You want to die? Go ahead.
    I argue for some basic testing simply because there are some things that can cause suddenly suicidal desire that are easily fixed. For example, being on Chantix. It has a very strong history of causing suicidal and homicidal tendencies. All you have to do is go off it. The patient should be at least made aware of that before they make the final decision.

    If they still want to, it's their life to end as they please. But giving them the opportunity to know those sorts of things is important.

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    Re: Euthanasia and assisted suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Why not? I would. It'd be incredibly hard, but I can think of no more loving final act I could do for my loved ones than to help afford them a dignified death. It's really not that hard to kill someone with the right tools in a controlled setting. It's just that the very ill may be so weak or disabled that they can't do it, despite how easy it may be.

    If my cat doesn't die naturally before she gets to a point where keeping her alive is cruel, I have already planned to have an at-home visit from the vet. If I can administer it myself, I will. She shouldn't be handled by some strange person she doesn't trust in her final moments. I don't want her to die scared. It's horrible for me to think about, but she is old and sick, and I don't want to get caught off guard when it's time to make that decision, so I have thought about it. I very nearly did it about a year ago, but fortunately a last-ditch medication effort brought her back to a good standard of living.

    Why wouldn't I afford a human loved one the same consideration I give my cat?

    No one should force the family to, of course. If they are unwilling, the person can be provided with a medical assistant to do it instead.
    I wouldn't want a family member to do that. I would not allow it.

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    Re: Euthanasia and assisted suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Which is great unless you wake up in a bed a quadriplegic. Then you're physically unable to do it yourself.
    Thanks for the observation.... Which is why I stated, "I cannot expect another to commit this last act in my life if it carries both civil and criminal penalties".

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