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Thread: Euthanasia and assisted suicide

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    Re: Euthanasia and assisted suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by Fruityfact View Post
    The fact that we choose to live shows that our right to life is from oneself..stay away from the religion thumping aspect of this and stick with the legality(the only thing that applies)
    I am trying to get you to do the same thing...if the right to life comes from an individual, then the individual is the source of all other rights. If I decide that I have a right to take anothers property, from where does the authority come to prevent me from doing so? From another individual? What allows one individuals sense of rights to trump anothers?

    If the law is a floating point calculation that ebbs and flows with fashion, then the law is meaningless and society is a sham.

    What is your opinion on Capital punishment?
    I am against it. The only time a person should be legally allowed to take a life is to preserve their own lives against the aggressor or in defense of another's life.
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    The morality of abortion is not a religious belief, any more than the morality of slavery, apartheid, rape, larceny, murder or arson is a religious belief. These are norms of the natural law of mankind and can be legislated even in a completely religionless society.

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    Re: Euthanasia and assisted suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    I am trying to get you to do the same thing...if the right to life comes from an individual, then the individual is the source of all other rights. If I decide that I have a right to take anothers property, from where does the authority come to prevent me from doing so? From another individual? What allows one individuals sense of rights to trump anothers?
    Abstract thinking..bravo
    The fact is there is common sense and boundaries to rights when applying to others
    Another question what do think about legalized drug use(applies with ones own rights)
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    Re: Euthanasia and assisted suicide

    I'm no legal expert but my impression is that if you are going to die within 6 months from a terminal illness such as cancer, you can be prescribed the kit after multiple physicians agree. Perfectly reasonable and hard fought against by the USG but so far Oregon has won.

    There is such a thing as justifiable homicide and justifiable suicide.

    I have my own suicide kit since I don't live in Oregon. Using it would not be a casual decision. Irreversible suffering is the only justification I can imagine.



    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I'm unfamiliar with the Oregon law. Must one be provably terminally ill to obtain the suicide kit? Does the law cover those with ALS who are ultimately going to deteriorate over the course of years before dying?

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    Re: Euthanasia and assisted suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by Fruityfact View Post
    Another question what do think about legalized drug use(applies with ones own rights)
    Fwiw, I'm pro-life, anti capital punishment, pro SSM and SS adoption, pro legalization and vegan.
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    Re: Euthanasia and assisted suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Here is a recent article about this.

    Paralyzed man weeps as high court denies his right-to-die | Fox News

    So the question for the poll I am asking.

    Does a person have the right to die?
    If an expectant mother has the right to knock of her unborn, then I don't see why she shouldn't be allowed to do the same for herself.

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    Re: Euthanasia and assisted suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    How is capital punishment not applicable here? If someone says you don't have the right to die or to take your life then it wouldn't make sense to favor capital punishment.
    No. That is an entirely different subject.
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    Re: Euthanasia and assisted suicide

    It is a VERY different subject.

    Capital punishment is subject to error. Suicide is not.

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    No. That is an entirely different subject.

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    Re: Euthanasia and assisted suicide

    If I'm dying and in constant pain, good luck trying to stop me.

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    Re: Euthanasia and assisted suicide

    If someone is terminally ill and in sound mind then they should be allowed to choose assisted suicide.
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    Re: Euthanasia and assisted suicide

    Very well put.

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