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    Re: candidate or party?

    Quote Originally Posted by comedy4all View Post
    Do you vote for a candidate or do you vote for a party?

    With the divide that is plain to see between the parties; are you motivated to vote for a politician based on the stance that he/she takes on the issues or do you vote based on the ideals of one of the political parties?
    28 to 4.Now that is a damn lie considering the number of party-tards voting for Romney and Obama.

    I vote for the candidate.I don't give a damn about party.
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    Re: candidate or party?

    Quote Originally Posted by comedy4all View Post
    Do you vote for a candidate or do you vote for a party?

    With the divide that is plain to see between the parties; are you motivated to vote for a politician based on the stance that he/she takes on the issues or do you vote based on the ideals of one of the political parties?
    I've been pretty loyal to the party, but that could change quickly if my party keeps nominating RINOs.

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    Re: candidate or party?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    I've been pretty loyal to the party, but that could change quickly if my party keeps nominating RINOs.


    I know how you feel. The hope is that the TEA party folks will continue to gain ground.

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    Re: candidate or party?

    I will always vote for the candidate over the party. I've voted for Democrats who closer espouse my beliefs, even though as a rule of thumb I vote Republican.

    A symbol is no replacement for a platform, and for anyone to vote the former over the latter is truly a lost soul - part of the degradation of the American republic.

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    Re: candidate or party?

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    How do you define progress?
    Getting something done. No bills are being signed right now and no solutions are being made to our problems. Voting for a unified congress will at least give a president a chance to do something to get us out of this mess. As of now, everything is shot down before anything comes of it because it is not the right party proposing it, and the President is given essentially no option other then to wait it out. Republicans do not want to hear what Democrats are saying and Democrats do not want to hear what Republicans are saying.
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    Re: candidate or party?

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    Getting something done. No bills are being signed right now and no solutions are being made to our problems. Voting for a unified congress will at least give a president a chance to do something to get us out of this mess. As of now, everything is shot down before anything comes of it because it is not the right party proposing it, and the President is given essentially no option other then to wait it out. Republicans do not want to hear what Democrats are saying and Democrats do not want to hear what Republicans are saying.

    So, if you house was burning down and the options were to a) do nothing, b) dowse it with water and c) dowse it with gasoline, you would favor b and c over a because both represent action?

    Again, how do you define progress? Progress toward what? Away from what? To accomplish what?

    A crystal Vase that sits on a shelf is not making any progress. A crystal vase falling toward a rocky ledge is making progress toward the ledge. All things considered, it's better for the vase to be on the shelf than continue its progress toward the rocky ledge.

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    candidate or party?

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    Getting something done. No bills are being signed right now and no solutions are being made to our problems. Voting for a unified congress will at least give a president a chance to do something to get us out of this mess. As of now, everything is shot down before anything comes of it because it is not the right party proposing it, and the President is given essentially no option other then to wait it out. Republicans do not want to hear what Democrats are saying and Democrats do not want to hear what Republicans are saying.
    Much of this is just standard party politics and has always occurred. Filibuster, no not the same then as it is now, but these are the things that you can readily find stated by senators in the last 20-30 years (one time in he 80s Moynihan both stated mournfully that "the debate in he senate" is not what it used to be, but was also quick to point out it wasn't quite what everyone thought t was to begin with), matters that seemed all too common for our founding fathers in their writings, and all the more noticeable toward the coming of civil war.

    So yes, politics isn't a beautiful woman, but it's a necessary, and traditional bitch of a service provided to mankind.
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