View Poll Results: Would you vote for a woman running for president if she held your political views?

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  • I'd be happy and excited to vote for a woman

    93 79.49%
  • I would have some hesitations, but vote for her if she was best qualified

    17 14.53%
  • I would vote for her only if there wasn't a qualified man

    2 1.71%
  • I would not vote for a woman even if she held my views

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    Re: Would You Vote a Woman into Presidential Office?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Okay, so not only are you willing to vote for a woman, but you're willing to vote for either a man or a woman who has no guiding Principles, Values, or Morals to speak of; since that is how Centrists are truly defined.
    Centrists are not centrist on all issues. It just means they are not as right wing as the Republican party, and not as left wing as the democratic party. You can be against public unions, against class warfare, but also be in favour of higher taxes, and gay marriage and still be a centrist. Centrists are not people who have no political beliefs.

    Some people may describe me as a centrist/slightly conservative in America, and that also seem to be the case in New Zealand. However in Sweden I would be regarded as a far right extremist. It is all relative to where you live. There is nothing wrong with voting for a centrists, as they are just centrist relative to American politics and they are not centrist on every single issue.

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    Re: Would You Vote a Woman into Presidential Office?

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    They are guided by Centrist principles, values and morals. Simply because someone's principles, values and morals are not your own does not mean they are not real. And for that matter one can hold certain personal principles, values and morals that are not the same with their political ones if some of their higher held ones override the lower ones.
    I agree that there ARE sets of Morals and Values other than my own. There are two sets in the world.... Conservatism and Liberalism. Anything else cannot, by definition by Principles, Morals or Values because anything else can only be an amalgamation of parts of the two sets of values and therefore has no actual Morals, Values, or Principles to it at all. These things are 100%/0% equations. There is no 90% Conservative or 25% Liberal. You are either 100% on board with the set of Values or you really don't believe in anything.

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    Re: Would You Vote a Woman into Presidential Office?

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    Centrists are not centrist on all issues. It just means they are not as right wing as the Republican party, and not as left wing as the democratic party. You can be against unions, against class warfare, but also be in favour of higher taxes, and gay marriage and still be a centrist. Centrists are not people who have no political beliefs.

    Some people may describe me as a centrist/slightly conservative in America, and that also seem to be the case in New Zealand. However in Sweden I would be regarded as a far right extremist. It is all relative to where you live. There is nothing wrong with voting for a centrists, as they are just the centrist of American politics and they are not centrist on every single issue.
    Exactly. The lack of a consistant ideology and philosophy is what tells me that Centrists don't actually believe in anything. I'm a Conservative. The minute that I begin to even CONSIDER a non-Conservative philosophy or ideology I am no longer a Conservative at all.

    I tend to disagree on the relativity arguement. Then again I would also suggest that there is a Universal Morality that exists, which many people do not agree with either.

    There is most definitely something wrong with voting for ANYONE who is not a complete and total Conservative. At least so far as I'm concerned.

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    Re: Would You Vote a Woman into Presidential Office?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Exactly. The lack of a consistant ideology and philosophy is what tells me that Centrists don't actually believe in anything. I'm a Conservative. The minute that I begin to even CONSIDER a non-Conservative philosophy or ideology I am no longer a Conservative at all.

    I tend to disagree on the relativity arguement. Then again I would also suggest that there is a Universal Morality that exists, which many people do not agree with either.

    There is most definitely something wrong with voting for ANYONE who is not a complete and total Conservative. At least so far as I'm concerned.

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    Re: Would You Vote a Woman into Presidential Office?

    Which is why I prefer these three individuals....
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    Re: Would You Vote a Woman into Presidential Office?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Exactly. The lack of a consistant ideology and philosophy is what tells me that Centrists don't actually believe in anything. I'm a Conservative. The minute that I begin to even CONSIDER a non-Conservative philosophy or ideology I am no longer a Conservative at all.

    I tend to disagree on the relativity arguement. Then again I would also suggest that there is a Universal Morality that exists, which many people do not agree with either.

    There is most definitely something wrong with voting for ANYONE who is not a complete and total Conservative. At least so far as I'm concerned.
    That's hard to do considering that the terms "liberal" and "conservative" are somewhat meaningless. The terms change all the time.

    So by conservative, what exactly do you mean?

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    Re: Would You Vote a Woman into Presidential Office?

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    That's hard to do considering that the terms "liberal" and "conservative" are somewhat meaningless. The terms change all the time.

    So by conservative, what exactly do you mean?
    The most recent one I can find in US Federal Government history would be President Andrew Jackson. I'm talking about Isolationist, Nationalist, Traditionalist individuals who walk their talk and are more interested in Right and Wrong than in what people want, or think they want.

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    Re: Would You Vote a Woman into Presidential Office?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    The most recent one I can find in US Federal Government history would be President Andrew Jackson. I'm talking about Isolationist, Nationalist, Traditionalist individuals who walk their talk and are more interested in Right and Wrong than in what people want, or think they want.
    What about someone who sees freedom and liberty as the highest values? Aren't those higher values than simply the terms, liberal and conservative?

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    Re: Would You Vote a Woman into Presidential Office?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Which is why I prefer these three individuals....
    Which makes sense since all of them were defeated, like your viewpoints.

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    Re: Would You Vote a Woman into Presidential Office?

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    What about someone who sees freedom and liberty as the highest values? Aren't those higher values than simply the terms, liberal and conservative?
    Nope. A true Conservative understands that Freedom and Liberty are PRIVILEGES, which should only be available to those who have PROVEN an ability to maintain actual Principles in their life.

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