The shifting I see is claims of willing to fight and yet ready to flee the country to some Strict Islamic nation with all the initial drama of a child's dramatic exit to her room.
There are times when fighting is the answer and times when tactical withdrawl is the answer. Some things it's worth it to die for and others that just aren't. Especially if you can find somewhere that is more to your liking and where you can live the life you're supposed to rather than the one that other people want you to.
Declare someone treasonous for doing what you claim you will do as soon as you can workout your legal/financial loose ends.
Okay, I've ignored the numerous versions of this comment in the last couple weeks because it wasn't worth my time. What I have suggested isn't that LEAVING is treasonous, but rather coming back after you've left is. I don't intend to come back. THAT is the difference.
So vocal and proud about what this 'society' demands of you and doesn't allow women, yet so silent on just what this 'society' is called.
So proud of your contrairian ways here yet claim to be such a slave to a nebulous 'society' you can't say the name of.
But you have to tell us all... what is this 'society' in the US that combines some warped Medieval and Puritan ethics? Where does it exist, and how many folks are like you?
That "society" doesn't really have a name. It's not an organized group so much as it is small groups of like and right-minded people who have found each other. Kind of like the home-schooling groups were 10-15 years ago. This society is built on Traditionalism. The ideals and values that were the standard of society for hundreds if not thousands of years before Western Society abandoned them in the Industrial Revolution around the beginning of the 20th Century and the Eastern world has slowly been abandoning since the middle of the 20th Century.
So rigid in dogma that you can't bank if the teller is female- pretty Wahhabi if you ask me.
Yes, I can see how you would make that comparison, and in many ways it's a very good one.
So rigid in some dogma that isn't any different than the basis of ALL societies.
EVERY society balances what you WANT to do vs what you SHOULD do. Someone who refuses to do what they should risked a wide variety of punishments from not being invited to the neighbor's pool party to the death penalty.
It is all a matter of degree, from not allowing alcohol in your vehicle to chopping heads off of dancers the difference is the degree a central authority dictates the rules.
You're right that all societies follow the same basic pattern. It's about how lenient or controlling they intend to be, and how willing they are to punish those who fail to obey the rules. That's just the standard definition of a society.
The want to do seems the sticking point. Wanting to do something is what makes life successful. I want to raise cattle, the last thing I want to do is work in a cubicle somewhere reviewing insurance claims. I want my daughter to be as able to do whatever she wants in life and take a dim view of anyone trying to tell her what her place is and what penalty her would suffer for daring to want more than to birth babies and cook.
Yes, the Want IS the sticking point for Traditionalists. For us, there is a societal roadmap and stepping off of it to go and pick the flowers or swim in the lake is a problem. It's about following the map and doing things the way they Should be done. Obviously not everyone agrees. That's fine. I'm not saying that you have to do the same. My problem comes when people start telling me that I cannot live that way, or placing major obstacles in the way of doing so.
Oh and on 'stench'. I think you are a recluse if working on one political campaign has so marked you, (you do tend to be a drama queen), and you decades later carry the 'stench'. I can't help but think what you smell isn't politics as much as some personal issue...
Look up the winner of the 1990 Connecticut Gubenatorial Election. He was an independent candidate named Lowell Wieker. I was taking an Amer. Pol. class in High School at the time that required doing work for a campaign or party. Some of us worked for that one. We worked our asses off on that campaign and we won, only to see the candidate not just stab us in the back, but literally gut everything we'd worked for only weeks after getting into office. That taught me all I ever needed to know about politics and politicians.
or two. But I do think you would make a great Saudi politician. Most are 'princes' of some sort, but they do have 'commoner' functionaries who spread the party line, and that is onething you do so well. Besides they don't have real campaigns so you are safe from that stench, but they have other odors most Westerners find offensive but just might be the flavor you savor...
Nah. I'm not a Muslem, nor do I intend to convert to Islam. I believe you have to be one to be involved in their system. Besides, the current country I'm looking at is Pakistan, not Saudi.
