View Poll Results: Is there any potential war on the horizon that you would support?

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  • China

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    Re: Is there any potential war on the horizon that you would support?

    The Middle Eastern countries are practically utopian compared with NK. That's really saying something isn't it? Nobody is proposing that we "social engineer", I think we're just being empathetic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I would never want to live like that, any more than I'd want to live in most Middle Eastern nations, because I dislike how they live. Far be it from me to tell them how to live though, especially since they haven't asked for my help. When and if they do, let me know. Until then, I'm against pre-emptive social engineering.

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    Re: Is there any potential war on the horizon that you would support?

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    The Middle Eastern countries are practically utopian compared with NK. That's really saying something isn't it? Nobody is proposing that we "social engineer", I think we're just being empathetic.
    It's a life they have chosen for generations. So long as they are unwilling to demonstrably act against it, it's none of our business how they live. Nobody had to show up before the American Revolution and say "we know the Americans really, really want to be free, we're just being empathetic by pro-actively forcing them from one lifestyle they've apparently chosen and embraced, to another one because we just know better".

    I don't buy that. If they want freedom, they'll be willing to fight for it collectively as a people. We did.
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    Re: Is there any potential war on the horizon that you would support?

    Maybe but unlikely--Texas War of Independence.

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    Re: Is there any potential war on the horizon that you would support?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Sorry you don't listen, but have they ASKED for liberation? No? Then you have no right to liberate them.
    Because they won't instantly be put to death and their entire family just disappears or anything.... and the few that have escaped to South Korea HAVE spoken out against the atrocities, including a former KPA Officer in the 2004 documentary "Seoul Train" Feel free to look it up.
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    Re: Is there any potential war on the horizon that you would support?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krasche View Post
    Because they won't instantly be put to death and their entire family just disappears or anything.... and the few that have escaped to South Korea HAVE spoken out against the atrocities, including a former KPA Officer in the 2004 documentary "Seoul Train" Feel free to look it up.
    So you've still got a few people who cared enough to escape, you haven't demonstrated that the majority of people want to be freed from the system.
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    Re: Is there any potential war on the horizon that you would support?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    So you've still got a few people who cared enough to escape, you haven't demonstrated that the majority of people want to be freed from the system.
    right, because the the other thousands of people just love being born and killed in slave camps.
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    Re: Is there any potential war on the horizon that you would support?

    Really? People think we should go to war with China?

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    Re: Is there any potential war on the horizon that you would support?

    I voted Syria for the obvious reason that the United Nation is obviously not going to do anything soon. The UN is crippled by its inability to agree on what should be done. Tens of thousands of people have already died. And it's easy too look at the situation objectively when it's not happening to you. These people need the help of the world, but aren't getting it. When the government of a people stops acting in favor of the welfare of the entire nation, something should be done.

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    Re: Is there any potential war on the horizon that you would support?

    No....

    Supporting war is supporting death and destruction. How could anyone possibly SUPPORT a war? You deal with it, and hope it ends soon with the least casualties. But flat out support it? Never
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    Re: Is there any potential war on the horizon that you would support?

    Quote Originally Posted by hailthorn View Post
    I voted Syria for the obvious reason that the United Nation is obviously not going to do anything soon. The UN is crippled by its inability to agree on what should be done. Tens of thousands of people have already died. And it's easy too look at the situation objectively when it's not happening to you. These people need the help of the world, but aren't getting it. When the government of a people stops acting in favor of the welfare of the entire nation, something should be done.
    When the USofA goes into any Middle Eastern country, for any reason, and starts killing people, we doom ourselves to decades of hatred and terrorism.

    It's not our fight, it's not our world, it's not our culture, and anything we do will be "wrong" by their standards.

    It's best we stay out and let others "fix" that area of the world.

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