View Poll Results: Is there any potential war on the horizon that you would support?

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  • China

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    Re: Is there any potential war on the horizon that you would support?

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    So you advocate leaving decisions to the General Assembly rather then the Security Council? there may well be more voting power in Assad's favor in the former than there is in the latter
    i'm advocating that in humanitarian crises such as mass murder of civilians, one or two nations should not be able to stop UN efforts simply because they have a strategic interest in the region.

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    Re: Is there any potential war on the horizon that you would support?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i'm advocating that in humanitarian crises such as mass murder of civilians, one or two nations should not be able to stop UN efforts simply because they have a strategic interest in the region.
    And at the same time you are advocating multilateralism, which is exactly what allows these nations to prevent intervention. The only difference in letting the general assembly make the decisions (which i assume was what you meant) is that it would be multiple states preventing intervention not just one or two.
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    Re: Is there any potential war on the horizon that you would support?

    As I'm not a statist, I don't support any of the "normal" wars (i.e. wars waged by governments). I would, however, support and (if effective) participate in armed action to secure basic needs (water, land, access to education and healthcare, etc.) if and when a government or private business made a move to block access to them. Blocking off needs is slow murder.
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    Re: Is there any potential war on the horizon that you would support?

    I would support an intervention in Syria with little to no boots on the ground. I think we should only go to war if attacked or to combat humanitarian crises.

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    Re: Is there any potential war on the horizon that you would support?

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    And at the same time you are advocating multilateralism, which is exactly what prevents this from happening.
    i prefer multilateralism to unilateralist interventionism. either way, the US can no longer afford to be the main combatant in every global police action, so if global police actions are still desired, someone is going to have design a body to fill that role.

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    Re: Is there any potential war on the horizon that you would support?

    Any of them where we have reason to believe it is in our national interest to intervene, and where there is reason to think we could alter the outcome in our favor, and that the outcome would be worth the effort.


    Iran... yes. It would be in our interests that Iran not develop nukes.

    Syria... meh. I can see where it might be in our interests to control who ends up running Syria, as they've been a constant ****-stirrer in the mideast a long time.

    China... well, come the day that China invades Taiwan or otherwise attempts to infringe on US interests in the Asian region, yes. That will likely be a big one, if it happens.


    And yes, when I say "will support" I do indeed mean "yes, I'd go fight personally if they'd let me." I tried to join for Gulf Round One but was disqual'd due to hearing problems, regrettably. I'm looking into treatments for that but they'd probably consider me too old to join now... but yeah I'd still go if they'd let me.

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    Re: Is there any potential war on the horizon that you would support?

    Short of the US being invaded by a foreign country, no, I can't think of any wars I'd support.
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    Re: Is there any potential war on the horizon that you would support?

    I voted "maybe but unlikely" because the poll didn't have an "others" line, for places like the Balkans and Sudan, and various less-than-famous African regional wars. The best war however, that I guess everyone could support, would be to break up the nation states of Europe, and Russia, and maybe even china, so that those large lands can be reorganized regionally, with sensitivity to the interests of local people. This is truely in the interest of the greater good, not just another interventionist move. The united states has managed to become the world's greatest empire because of its sensitivity to its people in all of its 50 states, something other countries still fail to do even these days.

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    Re: Is there any potential war on the horizon that you would support?

    I would support a war to liberate North Korea, if it was executed at the right time.
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    Re: Is there any potential war on the horizon that you would support?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zariak View Post
    I would support a war to liberate North Korea, if it was executed at the right time.
    While I feel for the people of North Korea, I have no interest in liberating them.

    Except... if NK invaded SK (again), then I would be willing to fight for SK, and would consider it almost mandatory to then liberate NK as a matter of eliminating future threats.

    If we had the political wherewithal to actually go in and kick ass... which I'm not convinced that we do anymore.
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